On 12/7/2006, justifiedright wrote:
I also didn't know Schlockmeister was a real word until I just looked it up.
No big deal. It's an obscure term, but I like the sound of it. Vocabulary
is not the problem.
The real problem is the cavalier treatment (or is it a shallow
understanding?) you give to serious subjects covered in some of your columns.
E.g.: The
only real war on Christmas was waged by Christian Puritans who saw the holiday
as encroaching Catholicism (Papistry). Much later, Henry Ford charged that “
The International Jew” waged war on Christmas. Then the John Birch Society
accused a secularist United Nations of waging such a war, but even
Goldwater's people considered that extremist. Most recently, it's been
O'Reilly and
Gibson from Fox fanning those flames. But anyone with Google 101 under his or
her belt can discover it's all bogus: scapegoating all over the board, from
Catholics to Jews to internationalists to humanists.
It's good to have a Teacher on the board, Mario.
It's not the teacher in me challenging your assertions and/or asking for
documentation.
It's the citizen in me. Scapegoating is un-American.
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Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Schlockmeister Columns Date: 12/7/2006 6:16:59
P.M. Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I didn't know Flame War was an Internet term of art.
I also didn't know Schlockmeister was a real word until I just
looked it up.
It's good to have a Teacher on the board, Mario.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mari
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> _justifiedright@ _justifiedright@<WBR>..._ _justifiedright
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> I wasn't trying to start a flame war with you.
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> Nor I with you.
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> What Flaming is:
> Flaming is when a person goes into a chat room, forum, discussion
or email
> and deliberately causes offense to someone by personal attacks
and insults,
> not just their opinions but everything, their personality, their
lifestyle,
> their family and friends even if they have never met the person
or know anything
> about them.
>
> What Flaming isn't:
> Someone placing their views, opinions on a discussion even if
they disagree
> with another's point of view. A simple way to put it is if the
disagreement
> is about the person views on the specific topic and not an attack
on the
> person in general, it is not classified as flaming
> __http://articles.http://articles.http://articles.http://_
(http://articles.syl.com/quickfactsinternetflaming.html_)
> (_http://articles.http://articles.http://articles.http:/_
(http://articles.syl.com/quickfactsinternetflaming.html) )
> Sometimes, serious...disagreem Sometimes, serious...disagreem<WBR>
as "flame
> wars" even when the major participants are making useful and
informative
> points and, largely, not flaming....Partly, terming such a
discussion a "flame
> war" seems to be due to faulty or distorted memory of the
discussion itself:....
> __http://en.wikipediahttp://en.http://en._
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_war_)
> (_http://en.wikipediahttp://en.http://en_
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_war) )
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> I acknowledge that my responses are at times quite lengthy. My
intent is to
> be thorough in a single post. The single phrase or single
sentence response
> seems inadequate. For example, your simple question, out of the
blue, could
> be construed as "flamebait."
> The simple answer to your question is no, I haven't had a
response from
> Pallone. I do intend to follow up with his office(s), but that
is low on my
> priority list of things to do. I'm still shamefully basking in
schadenfreude
> since the last election.
>
> ========Original Message=====
> Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Schlockmeister Columns Date: 12/7/2006
4:52:28
> P.M. Eastern Standard Time From: _justifiedright@ P.M.
> (mailto:justifiedri (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@_As_
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> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) )
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> Holy Cow Mario. It was a simple question. I only brought it up
> because he didn't come to the Springwood Avenue meeting and he
was
> invited to it, so it made me think of that. I wasn't trying to
> start a flame war with you.
>
> Just forget I asked.
>
> --- In _AsburyPark@ --- In _Asbury
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ) ,
> MarioAPNJ@, Mari
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> > On 12/7/2006 at 11:06:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > justifiedright@ justifiedr
> >
> >
> > Mario you had indicated that you would post here about
> Congressman Pallone's
> > response to your inquire [sic]regarding the statement he made
> about Asbury
> > Park. Did he ever respond to you?
> >
> >
> >
> > I could choose to see the above as a "monkey question" and
ignore
> it.
> >
> > Instead, I'll label it a "leading question" and respond with a
> few of my own:
> >
> > 1. Did you ever send the $100 check to the veterans'
> organization? See
> > messages at
> ___http://groups.http://groups.http://gr_
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> > (__http://groups.http://groups.http://gr_
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> (_http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Whttp://grhttp:_
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/18471) ) ) and
> > ___http://groups.http://groups.http://gr_
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> (_http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Whttp://grhttp:/_
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> > (__http://groups.http://groups.http://gr_
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> (_http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Whttp://grhttp:_
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/18492) ) ) .
> >
> > 2. Did you ever make a retraction or an apology to Keady? See
> > ___http://groups.http://groups.http://gr_
(http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.) <_Whttp://grhttp:Wh_
(whttp://grhttp:/_)
> (_http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Whttp://grhttp:/_
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/19616_) )
> > (__http://groups.http://groups.http://gr_
(http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.) <_Whttp://grhttp:W_
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> (_http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Whttp://grhttp:_
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/19616) ) )
> >
> > 3. In last week's column, you referred to the AP Chamber of
> Commerce as
> > "Bastards," "Communist Heathens," under "an idiot spell"
> of "witches," guilty of
> > "Politically Correct bullshit," and you threatened to spit in
the
> eye of
> > anyone wishing you "Happy Holidays."
> >
> > A. Did you intend that column to be a model of the "Judeo-
> Christian"
> > values which you claim progressives lack?
> >
> > B. You ended that column with "Praise Jesus." How is that
> different
> > from the Islamic fascists who shout "Praise Allah!" to justify
> violence, verbal
> > or otherwise?
> >
> > C. If you intended that column to be amusing, weren't you
> aware of the
> > commandment "You shall not take the name of the Lord your God
in
> vain"?
> >
> > D. Aren't you aware that "holidays" comes from "holy days"?
> >
> > 4. You always defend the rights of anonymous posters who,
> coincidentally,
> > always seem to agree with you although on a more intemperate
and
> vicious level:
> > an intriguing connection. (A leading statement not unlike those
> you make in
> > your columns: e.g., Zinn, assassination, Keady; e.g., Hitler,
> secular school
> > boards; et al.)
> >
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> > Re: Pallone
> >
> > Who was the reporter, Tommy? And where is it recorded? Lots of
> quotes in
> > the Press article. Not one mention of the sensational sentence
> you used in
> > your column! No red herrings. The reporter and where recorded?
> You repeated
> > the quote twice in your column for shock value, so I'll repeat
my
> questions
> > for emphasis too: Who was the reporter? Where is it recorded?
> > ___http://groups.http://groups.http://gr_
(http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.) <_Whttp://grhttp:Wh_
(whttp://grhttp:/_)
> (_http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Whttp://grhttp:/_
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/19470_) )
> > (__http://groups.http://groups.http://gr_
(http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.) <_Whttp://grhttp:W_
(whttp://grhttp:_/)
> (_http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Whttp://grhttp:_
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/19470) ) )
> >
> > You printed the following as a direct quote, i.e., the exact
> words of
> > Pallone: "I'm not going to bat in a city where I don't have a
> good relationship
> > with the mayor."
> >
> > How about these for leading questions? Does this say more about
> our mayor
> > than it does about the congressman? What are the details about
> that poor
> > relationship? Did the congressman get the same treatment from
> our elected
> > officials as Councilman Keady gets?
> >
> > Final leading question: I voted for these city officials, but
> see where
> > your provocations push people like me. I'll buy a round of
> drinks on the day
> > those officials formally distance themselves from your tactics.
> >
> > Happy Holidays
> >
> > ========Original Message===== ==
> > Subj: [AsburyPark] Mario: Pallone Response? Date: 12/7/2006
> 11:06:43
> > A.M. Eastern Standard Time From: _justifiedright@ A.M.
> > (mailto:justifiedri (mailto:just_ (mailto:j (mailto:j (ma
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> >
> > Mario you had indicated that you would post here about
> Congressman
> > Pallone's response to your inquire regarding the statement he
made
> > about Asbury Park.
> >
> > Did he ever respond to you?
> >
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