You are so serious all the time.  Do you ever lighten up? All I did 
was compliment you in my last post.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On 12/7/2006, justifiedright  wrote: 
> 
> 
> I also didn't know Schlockmeister was  a real word until I just 
looked it up.
>  
> No big deal. It's an obscure term, but I like the sound of it.   
Vocabulary 
> is not the problem.  
>  
> The real problem is the cavalier treatment (or is it a shallow  
> understanding?) you give to serious subjects covered in some of 
your  columns.  E.g.: The 
> only real war on Christmas was waged by Christian  Puritans who 
saw the holiday 
> as encroaching Catholicism (Papistry).  Much  later, Henry Ford 
charged that “
> The International Jew” waged war on  Christmas.  Then the John 
Birch Society 
> accused a secularist United Nations  of waging such a war, but 
even 
> Goldwater's people considered that  extremist.  Most recently, 
it's been O'Reilly and 
> Gibson from Fox  fanning those flames.  But anyone with Google 101 
under his or 
> her belt can  discover it's all bogus: scapegoating all over the 
board, from 
> Catholics to Jews  to internationalists to humanists.
>  
> 
> It's good to have a Teacher on the  board, Mario.
> 
> 
> 
> It's not the  teacher in me challenging your assertions and/or 
asking for 
> documentation.  
>  
> It's the citizen in me.  Scapegoating is  un-American.
> 
> ========Original Message========
>     Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Schlockmeister Columns  Date: 12/7/2006 
6:16:59 
> P.M. Eastern Standard Time  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   Sent on:    
> 
> 
> 
>  
>  
>  
> I didn't know Flame War was an Internet term of art. 
> 
> I also didn't  know Schlockmeister was a real word until I just 
> looked it up.
> 
> It's  good to have a Teacher on the board, Mario.
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
> MarioAPNJ@,  Mari
> >
> > 
> > _justifiedright@ _justifiedright@<WBR>..._ _justifiedright
> > 
> > 
> > I wasn't  trying to start a flame war with you.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > Nor I with you.
> > ============ ======== =
> > What  Flaming is:
> > Flaming is when a person goes into a chat room, forum,  
discussion 
> or email 
> > and deliberately causes offense to someone by  personal attacks 
> and insults, 
> > not just their opinions but  everything, their personality, 
their 
> lifestyle, 
> > their family and  friends even if they have never met the person 
> or know anything 
> >  about them.
> > 
> > What Flaming isn't:
> > Someone placing their  views, opinions on a discussion even if 
> they disagree 
> > with  another's point of view. A simple way to put it is if the 
> disagreement  
> > is about the person views on the specific topic and not an 
attack  
> on the 
> > person in general, it is not classified as flaming 
> >  __http://articles.http://articles.http://articles.http://_ 
> (http://articles.syl.com/quickfactsinternetflaming.html_)   
> > (_http://articles.http://articles.http://articles.http:/_ 
> (http://articles.syl.com/quickfactsinternetflaming.html) )  
> > Sometimes, serious...disagreem Sometimes, 
serious...disagreem<WBR> 
> as "flame 
> > wars" even when the major participants are making useful  and 
> informative 
> > points and, largely, not flaming....Partly, terming  such a 
> discussion a "flame 
> > war" seems to be due to faulty or  distorted memory of the 
> discussion itself:.... 
> > __http://en.wikipediahttp://en.http://en._ 
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_war_)   
> > (_http://en.wikipediahttp://en.http://en_ 
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_war) )  
> >  ============  ======  ======  ======  ======  = 
> > I acknowledge that my responses are at times quite lengthy. My  
> intent is to 
> > be thorough in a single post. The single phrase or  single 
> sentence response 
> > seems inadequate. For example, your simple  question, out of the 
> blue, could 
> > be construed as "flamebait."  
> > The simple answer to your question is no, I haven't had a 
> response  from 
> > Pallone. I do intend to follow up with his office(s), but that  
> is low on my 
> > priority list of things to do. I'm still shamefully  basking in 
> schadenfreude 
> > since the last election.
> > 
> >  ========Original Message=====  
> > Subj: [AsburyPark] Re:  Schlockmeister Columns Date: 12/7/2006 
> 4:52:28 
> > P.M. Eastern  Standard Time From: _justifiedright@ P.M.
> >  (mailto:justifiedri  (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@_As_ 
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) _  
> > (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) )  
> Sent on: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Holy Cow  Mario. It was a simple question. I only brought it up 
> > because he didn't  come to the Springwood Avenue meeting and he 
> was 
> > invited to it, so  it made me think of that. I wasn't trying to 
> > start a flame war with  you.
> > 
> > Just forget I asked.
> > 
> > --- In  _AsburyPark@ --- In  _Asbury
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) )  , 
> > MarioAPNJ@, Mari
> > >
> > > 
> > > On 12/7/2006  at 11:06:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> > > justifiedright@  justifiedr
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mario you had indicated that  you would post here about 
> > Congressman Pallone's 
> > > response  to your inquire [sic]regarding the statement he made 
> > about Asbury  
> > > Park. Did he ever respond to you?
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I could choose to see the above as a "monkey  question" and 
> ignore 
> > it.
> > > 
> > > Instead, I'll  label it a "leading question" and respond with 
a 
> > few of my own:
> >  > 
> > > 1. Did you ever send the $100 check to the veterans' 
> >  organization? See 
> > > messages at 
> > ___http://groups.http://groups.http://gr_ 
> (http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.) <_Whttp://grhttp:Wh_ 
(whttp://grhttp:/_)   
> > (_http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Whttp://grhttp:/_ 
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/18471_) )  
> > > (__http://groups.http://groups.http://gr_ 
> (http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.) <_Whttp://grhttp:W_ 
(whttp://grhttp:_/)   
> > (_http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Whttp://grhttp:_ 
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/18471) )  ) and 
> > > ___http://groups.http://groups.http://gr_ 
> (http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.) <_Whttp://grhttp:Wh_ 
(whttp://grhttp:/_)   
> > (_http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Whttp://grhttp:/_ 
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/18492_) )  
> > > (__http://groups.http://groups.http://gr_ 
> (http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.) <_Whttp://grhttp:W_ 
(whttp://grhttp:_/)   
> > (_http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Whttp://grhttp:_ 
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/18492) )  ) .
> > > 
> > > 2. Did you ever make a retraction or an apology  to Keady? See 
> > > ___http://groups.http://groups.http://gr_ 
> (http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.) <_Whttp://grhttp:Wh_ 
(whttp://grhttp:/_)   
> > (_http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Whttp://grhttp:/_ 
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/19616_) )  
> > > (__http://groups.http://groups.http://gr_ 
> (http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.) <_Whttp://grhttp:W_ 
(whttp://grhttp:_/)   
> > (_http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Whttp://grhttp:_ 
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/19616) )  ) 
> > > 
> > > 3. In last week's column, you referred to the AP  Chamber of 
> > Commerce as 
> > > "Bastards," "Communist Heathens,"  under "an idiot spell" 
> > of "witches," guilty of 
> > >  "Politically Correct bullshit," and you threatened to spit in 
> the 
> >  eye of 
> > > anyone wishing you "Happy Holidays." 
> > > 
> >  > A. Did you intend that column to be a model of the "Judeo-
> >  Christian" 
> > > values which you claim progressives lack?
> > >  
> > > B. You ended that column with "Praise Jesus." How is that 
> >  different 
> > > from the Islamic fascists who shout "Praise Allah!" to  
justify 
> > violence, verbal 
> > > or otherwise? 
> > >  
> > > C. If you intended that column to be amusing, weren't you 
> >  aware of the 
> > > commandment "You shall not take the name of the Lord  your God 
> in 
> > vain"?
> > > 
> > > D. Aren't you aware  that "holidays" comes from "holy days"? 
> > > 
> > > 4. You  always defend the rights of anonymous posters who, 
> > coincidentally,  
> > > always seem to agree with you although on a more intemperate  
> and 
> > vicious level: 
> > > an intriguing connection. (A  leading statement not unlike 
those 
> > you make in 
> > > your  columns: e.g., Zinn, assassination, Keady; e.g., Hitler, 
> > secular school  
> > > boards; et al.)
> > > 
> > > ============ ======  ====== ====== ====== ======
> > > Re: Pallone
> > > 
> > >  Who was the reporter, Tommy? And where is it recorded? Lots 
of 
> > quotes  in 
> > > the Press article. Not one mention of the sensational 
sentence  
> > you used in 
> > > your column! No red herrings. The reporter  and where 
recorded? 
> > You repeated 
> > > the quote twice in your  column for shock value, so I'll 
repeat 
> my 
> > questions 
> > >  for emphasis too: Who was the reporter? Where is it recorded? 
> > > ___http://groups.http://groups.http://gr_ 
> (http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.) <_Whttp://grhttp:Wh_ 
(whttp://grhttp:/_)   
> > (_http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Whttp://grhttp:/_ 
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/19470_) )  
> > > (__http://groups.http://groups.http://gr_ 
> (http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.) <_Whttp://grhttp:W_ 
(whttp://grhttp:_/)   
> > (_http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Whttp://grhttp:_ 
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/19470) )  ) 
> > > 
> > > You printed the following as a direct quote, i.e.,  the exact 
> > words of 
> > > Pallone: "I'm not going to bat in a  city where I don't have a 
> > good relationship 
> > > with the  mayor."
> > > 
> > > How about these for leading questions? Does  this say more 
about 
> > our mayor 
> > > than it does about the  congressman? What are the details 
about 
> > that poor 
> > >  relationship? Did the congressman get the same treatment from 
> > our  elected 
> > > officials as Councilman Keady gets?
> > > 
> >  > Final leading question: I voted for these city officials, but 
> > see  where 
> > > your provocations push people like me. I'll buy a round of  
> > drinks on the day 
> > > those officials formally distance  themselves from your 
tactics.
> > > 
> > > Happy Holidays
> >  > 
> > > ========Original Message===== ==
> > > Subj:  [AsburyPark] Mario: Pallone Response? Date: 12/7/2006 
> > 11:06:43 
> >  > A.M. Eastern Standard Time From: _justifiedright@ A.M.
> > >  (mailto:justifiedri (mailto:just_  (mailto:j  (mailto:j  (ma 
> > (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@_As_ 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> )  _ 
> > > (mailto:_AsburyPark (mailto:_Asbury (
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) )  ) 
> > Sent on: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mario you had indicated that you would  post here about 
> > Congressman 
> > > Pallone's response to your  inquire regarding the statement he 
> made 
> > > about Asbury  Park.
> > > 
> > > Did he ever respond to you?
> >  >
> >
>




 
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