--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <oakdorf@> wrote:
> >
> > 
I thought you were going to blame Fishman.




You had (and HAVE) a family unit. How many do in AP.. or for that 
> > matter,in the US? Kids (african american, whites, etc) can't be 
> having 
> > kids for the fun of it. With it, comes a responsilbity of the 
> PARENTS, 
> > not a sitter, daycare etc.
> 
> The reasons are multi-fold. One is the loss in this country (over 
the 
> past 5-6 decades) of unskilled jobs that paid a fair wage. An 
> interesting read is in the current issue of Rolling Stone about 
> income inequality. Here's an excerpt.
> 
> "But in the 1970s, inequality began increasing again -- slowly at 
> first, then more and more rapidly. You can see how much things have 
> changed by comparing the state of affairs at America's largest 
> employer, then and now. In 1969, General Motors was the country's 
> largest corporation aside from AT&T, which enjoyed a government-
> guaranteed monopoly on phone service. GM paid its chief executive, 
> James M. Roche, a salary of $795,000 -- the equivalent of $4.2 
> million today, adjusting for inflation. At the time, that was 
> considered very high. But nobody denied that ordinary GM workers 
were 
> paid pretty well. The average paycheck for production workers in 
the 
> auto industry was almost $8,000 -- more than $45,000 today. GM 
> workers, who also received excellent health and retirement 
benefits, 
> were considered solidly in the middle class.
> 
> Today, Wal-Mart is America's largest corporation, with 1.3 million 
> employees. H. Lee Scott, its chairman, is paid almost $23 million --
 
> more than five times Roche's inflation-adjusted salary. Yet Scott's 
> compensation excites relatively little comment, since it's not 
> exceptional for the CEO of a large corporation these days. The 
wages 
> paid to Wal-Mart's workers, on the other hand, do attract 
attention, 
> because they are low even by current standards. On average, Wal-
> Mart's non-supervisory employees are paid $18,000 a year, far less 
> than half what GM workers were paid thirty-five years ago, adjusted 
> for inflation. And Wal-Mart is notorious both for how few of its 
> workers receive health benefits and for the stinginess of those 
> scarce benefits."
> 
> Many men who did not have skills or higher education could no 
longer 
> find jobs to support a family and simply left. It then becomes 
> intergenerational.
> 
> Then we have the failures of the welfare system. Great idea but 
poor 
> execution.
>




 
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