Werner I guess we are going to disagree somewhat here.  My own 
recollection from my 20's was that Long Branch, while certainly not 
as grand as it once was, still had a good tourist economy. I was 
there quite often, delivering ice there all day and going back for 
fun at night. Asbury's tourism was down to almost zero at the time.  
I have to repectfully disagree with your assertion that LB lost its 
reputtion as a tourist destination before AP.

As for the rest of the post, well that's just our usual 
diagreements ;-).




--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
> <justifiedright@> wrote:
> >
> > Werner how about Long Branch?  The similarities between their 
> > beachfront and ours are many.  Pier Village, where I went with 
my 
> > family last weekend, is working very well.
> > 
> > Why do you think it wouldn't work in AP?
> 
> LB and AP are more different than they are similar. The reputation 
of 
> LB as a resort faded away decades before that of AP. LB does not 
have 
> historic monumental buildings as AP does. Name recognition, street 
> grids, predominant types of development are all dis-similar.
> 
> Firt off you assume LB is working well. By what measure? Most 
anything 
> can 'work well'. That is not the issue. The issue is, what is best 
for 
> the community at large. LB's redevelopment has walled off the 
> oceanfront from the rest of the community.
> 
> Literally turning its 'back' to the rest of the City. Sure, once 
you 
> find your way 'inside' it is interesting and attractive in a 
cookie 
> cutter sort of way. Too bad one can no longer drive along the 
> oceanfront unimpeded.
> 
> As to AP, yes that model may work, as I said that is not the 
issue. 
> What is the BEST that AP can do is the question. What provides the 
> greatest good for the most residents. What brings value on a broad 
> range of concerns?
> 
> Ratable creation, employment opportunities, historic preservation, 
> cultural heritage, public access, mobility, relevence to other 
parts of 
> the community, economics.....etc.
> 
> Redevelopment is suppsed to heal/repair a community, instead it 
has 
> been turned into a tool to benefit developers with the acquiesence 
of 
> municipal governments.
> 
> In the large picture, the LB model of redevelopment is not 
something AP 
> should aspire to.
> 
> Werner
>




 
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