I hope this guy is voted OUT!
----- Original Message ---- From: rogerpoulard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 3:52:19 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Pedophiles at the Market Street Mission --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" <justifiedright@ ...> wrote: > > Welcome Roger. > > I don't know about 7 homeless shelters, but there were not zero > either. > > The state lists Interfaith Neighbors as an emergency shelter. I > don't know if that is right, but if not, they should notify the > state. The information I got on that was from Jim Keady's blog in July of 06. Here's the quote: "In their literature, the group "Stand Up For Asbury" wrongly states that, "There are 7 other shelters in Asbury Park that have overnight sleeping quarters for the homeless." And the Coaster printed that information in their July 13th edition without any fact-checking, I later learned. There are not 7 shelters in Asbury Park. There are currently NO shelters in Asbury Park that offer overnight sleeping quarters for the homeless. There are seven agencies that offer services for the homeless and transitional residential housing for specific populations (abused women, HIV/AIDS, etc.) but there is no agency currently operating in Asbury Park that would meet the loosest definition of a homeless shelter." > > Also, I know City Hall was running a homeless shelter recently, > which I did see with my own eyes. > > > I went and interviewed some of the people at the City Hall shelter. > Not one of them was from Asbury. One even told me that cops as far > away as New Brunswick were buying the homeless train tickets to > Asbury Park to send the homeless to our shelter. That's how he had > gotten here. Your concerns in that regard are well founded. Well, here's my concern - if this is happening and we can document it, why isn't Asbury Park taking action to make the other municipalities take care of their own homeless issue. Why isn't Asbury Park suing New Brunswick to recover the costs of taking care of this homeless situation? What is the city government doing to have this addressed at the state level in Trenton? > > Regarding your quotes about the amount of sex offenders in the area > now - I don't see how that helps your case here. If we had no rapes > in Asbury Park, then I could see your point. Since we do have rapes > each year, I think citing those statistics supports my argument that > we should not be attracting more rapists. > > The problem is putting these folks in a residential neighborhood. > It shouldn't be. This little beach town has done enough. Time for > someone else to do some heavy lifting. According to the Stand Up For Asbury website, the area is zoned for "Light Industrial" and not residential. Although there is housing nearby (in a city of 1.4 square miles, I don't see how its possible for there not to be) it is not being placed in a zoned residential area. I think my statistics may support an argument for ordinances to prohibit sex offenders for living within a certain distance of a school or park but not for the creation of a homeless shelter. The city could work with MSM to create a shelter that will have a positive outcome for our homeless population. Although I would love other municipalities in this area to do heavy lifting, it's pretty apparent that nobody else is willing to. Maybe its my catholic background, but I just don't think we should stop helping because we've "done enough" as a community. Most people that have moved to Asbury Park in the past was well aware of these problems before they bought property here... and just because a ton of money and fresh paint finds its way to the streets of Asbury doesn't mean that the problems just disappear either. > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "rogerpoulard" <rogerpoulard@ > > wrote: > > > > Hi. > > > > I've lived in Asbury Park for about a year now. I've been > attracted to > > this community because of its mix and seeming compassion for the > less > > fortunate that live here. I haven't followed the Market Street > Mission > > project terribly closely but I've kept my eye on it. Because I > support > > it, mostly. > > > > I had some concerns about the "Stand Up For Asbury" organization > from > > the beginning. When I went to the website, they originally talked > > about there being seven homeless shelters in Asbury Park, an > > overestimation by seven. Once I discovered that, there was little > on > > that website I felt I could believe. > > > > There are reservations that I feel towards this specific > > organization' s plans - especially in the area of religious > inculcation > > to house homeless people in need of a bed, but its something I can > > live with. I also have concerns with bussing in other homeless > people, > > especially if it is at the expense of the homeless population in > > Asbury Park, which is pretty sizeable for the size of our city. > > > > I think that there are a lot of concerns that can be mediated out > with > > the construction of a homeless shelter in Asbury - no matter who > the > > operators are, by creating a set of regulations to abide by in our > > city. Helping to create something that can give some respite to our > > own homeless issue can be a positive for our community, and dare I > > suggest, may also reduce the amount of human crap found in our > parks - > > as I've read about on this list. > > > > As for fearing sex offenders jumping into Asbury for "ripe > pickings" > > as some people would like to think is going to happen... there are > > currently 31 Sex Offenders currently living in the Asbury Park > area. > > There are 20 more in Ocean Grove/Neptune Township. Those are just > the > > ones that we know about. Is there a chance that more sex offenders > > will end up within our city limits due to this homeless shelter? > Yes. > > But put a new playground in somewhere, and we probably run a > similar > > risk. > > > > Decisions to make this project a reality in AP should be based on > > whether or not it will help our own homeless population problem, > and > > whether or not we can work with the mission's program to create a > > system that will be a net positive to our city. So, my unanswered > > question is this: how receptive have the Market Street Mission folk > > been to working with the city to create a homeless shelter program > > that will benefit all of us? Or is this an avenue we've left > unexplored? > > > > Roger Poulard > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" > > > <justifiedright@ > wrote: > > > > One of these scumbags raped a girl less than 13 years old. > The > > > > other raped an adult woman. > > > > > > > > Neither one of these guys committed their crimes in > Morristown. Not > > > > even in Morris County. Yet these predators found their way to > > > > Morristown why? Because the shelter attracted them there. > > > > > > > > The shelter in Asbury will attract the same kind of pedophilia > > > > rapists here, and the Mission will let them in. > > > > > > I have been awol for a while. On trial for 2 weeks. I'm with you > on > > > this Tom. Mission is bad for AP. > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! 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