I opened in '05. The city selectively enforced the ordinance in '05 as well. But it worked to my advantage, as they didn't adversely affect my business. On the contrary, when it was announced that the city would begin enforcement (again, no consistency; it was the middle of the season), the public came out in droves, and in support, and increased rental revenues by 100%. Furthermore, the selective enforcement worked for me, if you understand what I'm saying. Therefore, when Kinmon suggested that it would indeed work for me again in the '06 season, I had no reason to ever imagine it would go as bad as it did. Thanks for asking.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" <robert@> > wrote: > > > > > Did you open your business first, then talk to Reidy or visa versa? > > > > > I agree. Knowing what I know now, I would not expect the city to do > > anything in good faith; I just wish I had not come here with blind > > faith! Truly, my own fault for having a good heart, and being a man > > of my word. Shouldn't expect others to have such ethics; even when > it > > could be good for them, > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <nnjallans1@> > > wrote: > > > > > > While I am sorry to hear about the toubles you had. You can not > > expect the city to suggest where you open. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: asburyparkpedaler <robert@> > > > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:48:29 PM > > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting > > > > > > When Reidy told me the plan, it sounded great. A center lane with > a > > 5 > > > MPH speed limit. Anyone operating outside of these guidelines > would > > > be enforced. What's the problem? Especially since roads were not > > > condusive to cycling, particularly with ocean view. The other > thing > > > that bothers me is that if Kinmon was willing to go out on a limb > > and > > > tell me I'd not have a problem with rentals; it would not have > been > > > difficult for the city to alter ordinance to allow commercial > > bikes; > > > considering I had valid mercantile license. As for you, Fred, you > > do > > > realize that my Shop only opened to the boardwalk, right? > Shouldn't > > > someone have at least suggested I open in a different location > due > > to > > > the potential issues? > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Hinge" <hinge98@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Why not be progressive? Exactly my thought. Bike lanes along > the > > > beach work in many > > > > places, and they definitely would've worked in AP. The Strand > in > > LA > > > is the best example I > > > > can think of. Only difference is it's concrete rather then > wood. > > > When I lived in LA, tons and > > > > tons of people shared the Strand every single day without > > incident > > > because they knew, > > > > because of lines, that bikes and rollerbladers go here, and > > walkers > > > go there. We have the > > > > widest boardwalk around. Plenty of room for everyone. > > > > As for enforcing the rules, I had many varying encounters with > > > riding my bike on the > > > > boardwalk. In the beginning of the summer, I did it all the > time, > > > and there were definitely > > > > cops present, and nobody told me to stop. Then, toward the end > of > > > the summer, I got > > > > kicked off once, and like a good citizen I followed the rules. > > Next > > > thing i knew, I was the > > > > guy riding on the pothole ridden street, but there were still > > > others riding on the > > > > boardwalk, and nobody seemed to be enforcing that. > > > > Also, one thing that amazed me is that many times, the > boardwalk > > > was nearly deserted, so > > > > here's a rule that keeps people from riding on a deserted > > > boardwalk. What is that? Even > > > > nobody else is there, you can't go there either. Absurd. > > > > As for Rita, I was at a council meeting where she began bashing > > > bikes, because one fricken > > > > person had a bad encounter. Knee jerk reaction. > > > > Welcome to bicycle friendly Asbury Park. What BS. > > > > They need to stop calling this city bicycle friendly. > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" > <robert@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm saying that I would not have spent $14K on new rental > units > > > if I > > > > > was told that they would enforce bike restrictions on the > > > boardwalk > > > > > in the upcoming season. You attitude towards this is exactly > > why > > > this > > > > > place is doomed to fail, yet again. Why not be progressive, > > > > > particularly when the people being attracted here to buy > homes > > > are > > > > > encouraging it? You and Rita would rather argue for the sake > of > > > > > arguing. If I say black, you'll say white > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Fred" <asburydogma@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" > > > <robert@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you are saying if the ordinance wasn't enforced you > would > > > have > > > > > > stayed? You know who you should blame then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I would have been informed beforehand, I could have > > changed > > > the > > > > > > > plan. But there was no reason to change the plan, as I > was > > > > > > > encouraged. Particularly when I asked about renting prior > > to > > > > > > > purchasing the new fleet. If I was quoted as to city > > > ordinances, > > > > > > > which according to your ideals, should have been the > > > protocol; I > > > > > > > wouldn't have spent the money. But, since I trusted the > > word > > > of > > > > > > city > > > > > > > officials instead, I got screwed. Are you going to start > > > > > enforcing > > > > > > > the ordinance of no bathing attire on boards or adjacent > > > > > walkways? > > > > > > > SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT; understand, how it could be ok in > > the > > > name > > > > > > of > > > > > > > progress? No? Than enforce it! Enforce all those laws > that > > > will > > > > > > mark > > > > > > > dark ages instead of progress in the name of being right! > > You > > > > > think > > > > > > > I'm just saying they said it would be OK? Ask boardwalk > > > merchants > > > > > > and > > > > > > > Uri K from the partners that were present at that meeting > > in > > > > > tides > > > > > > if > > > > > > > I didn't ask top cops before spending my money on new > > > rentals. If > > > > > > > they tell you I didn't, their lying! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Fred" <asburydogma@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "dfsavgny" > > <dfsavgny@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" > > > > > > <robert@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why is it incompenence? They has reasons didn't they. > > > Weren't > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > worried about people getting hurt? Weren't they worried > > > about > > > > > > > > enforcement? Go ask Rita how she felt about it. She > > didn't > > > even > > > > > > > want > > > > > > > > the time extended to noon. Why didn't this guy go > > directly > > > to a > > > > > > > > council meeting and demand to be heard and give his > > reason > > > for > > > > > a > > > > > > > bike > > > > > > > > lane. He keeps on saying "The truth as I know it" His > > truth > > > may > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > be the truth. Like Momma always says there a 3 sides to > > > evey > > > > > > story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it really the same thing? Can't we trust our > > elected > > > > > > > officials > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > act competently in the name of the people? And if > > not, > > > > > isn't > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > corruption? Furthermore, if you don't beleive there > > is > > > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > > (not > > > > > > > > > > necessarily evidence of it; after all, a murderer > > > doesn't > > > > > > > always > > > > > > > > > > provide evidence, but the victim is still dead) > here, > > > than > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > are in > > > > > > > > > > denial. Frustrating to know what goes on, but like > > you > > > say, > > > > > > > > falling > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > deaf ears of the corrupt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just have a problem making an accusation without > > > evidence > > > > > > > > regardless > > > > > > > > > of my suspicions. There is an inordinately large > amount > > > of > > > > > > > evidence > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > support incompetence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > ______________ > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast > > > with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. > > > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. 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