I believe the issue is as much (if not more) about wealth as it is race. Before everyone jumps down my throat - let me explain.
Bottom-line in this country (and everywhere else on earth) money buys influence. And when you don't have much money you get very little access to politicians and "leaders", meaning it is much harder to get heard resulting in less influence and ultimately less action. So you've got all of the BS that has occurred in the AP school district for as long as anyone can remember. Corruption, influence peddling, political appointments, etc.,. The same thing has occurred in other less afluent places like Newark, Jersey City, Camden etc... There have been white superindenants, black superinendants. Nothing has changed. Same issues, different adminstrations, different boards. Now how long would that kind of BS be tolerated in a wealthy community. Think this would have been allowed to happen for the past 20 years if this were Holmdel? No. Because money and influence talks - and politicians from around the town, county and state would have been motivated not just to dole out funds but to act. The press would have been all over it. That's why often the worst issues in other school systems seem like a walk in the park vs. what we face. Other towns wouldn't tolerate it and have the resources and political relationships to raise holy hell. As for Asbury and the other cities - it is far easier for the federal, state and county politicians to throw money at the problems than to actually fix them. That way everyone can look themselves in the mirror and feel like they did what they could without actually doing much at all. And the money just makes the problems worse - now you have the same issues of corruption, politics and the rest all after a much larger chunk of money - the ultimate corrupter. So that's why I believe Tom is right - we need to get the other "district members" to have to make a tough choice between sending their kids here or paying for private school. Because they are now getting their cake (sending their kids elsewhere) and eating it too (not having to pay for private school). There's no reason for them to care about the AP school district - they are getting their money's worth out of their taxes and their kids aren't impacted. Change this and several things would change. First, those folks with more money and influence from surrounding towns would scream to the heavens about paying taxes for schools they can't send their kids to. They'd start complaining - loudly - and be heard though the influence of their money and their contacts. Then action would actually have to start to improve the schools. These improvements would result in some of these households actually sending their kids back to AP schools, improving diversity and involvement. And the cycle would begin. Yes this is a multi-year process. But an important one. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Even if the law suit was won, the parents still can send their children to private school or do home schooling. Without vastly improving the high school first and making it a desirable place for students to be, any law suit would be futile. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 1:46 PM > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Lastly... > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <asburycouple@> > wrote: > > > > > I think the Abbott lawsuit took about 4 years. > > I'm with you on this one Tom. I don't understand the rationale > > (legally) around letting students in this district go to other > > district's public schools. Requiring those students to go to APH > of > > pay for private would improve the overall diversity of the school > > while increasing the focus on improvements not just from parents in > > AP but parents and taxpayers from the entire district. > > > > A lawsuit from the school board to re-visit this "avoid Asbury Park > > High" policy is both appropriate and would have a good chance of > > success. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > <justifiedright@> wrote: > > > > > > Oak you have taken my ball and run onto a whole different field > > with > > > it. In fact, you are not even playing the same sport with my > ball. > > > > > > NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING in any of my posts has to due > with > > > inequality in funding. NOTHING. > > > > > > My topic is that we are sending the white kids away from their > > HOME > > > district. Get that? Their HOME district. That's why I call > > > it "reverse busing." > > > > > > I understand people don't like busing when it is taking kids away > > > from their home district, to a foreign district, to create racial > > > balacne in the foreign district. I understand that is > > objectionable. > > > > > > If that is objectionable, so is busing kids AWAY FROM THEIR HOME > > > DISTRICT therefore creating the segregated district at home! > > > > > > Why not make all the kids stay in their home district? They're > > > making your kid do it Oak, but the kids in the Asbury District > are > > > given this special privilege to avoid AP. > > > > > > This decision was race based. It is the only one like it. It was > > > done with a particular purpose, which if you look at the > > enrollment, > > > worked. > > > > > > None of the matters you cite overturned Brown. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <oakdorf@> wrote: > > > > > > > > TD: Lsats are June 11. Can't wait. > > > > > > > > Given the true facts, I see no reason why the schools in NJ are > > > not > > > > funded equally. Again, TD, at what point are things considered > > > equal? > > > > Is it the point every kid from an Abbott district gets into a > > > college > > > > of their choice or gets straight A's, what about the white kids > > > from > > > > the lawsuit driven rural Abbott Districts? > > > > > > > > Tell me - what is equal? beer on me. (then we'll be equal) > > > > > > > > Another bit: > > > > http://www.issues-views.com/index.php/sect/1003/article/501 > > > > ....Instead of relying on these explicit constitutional > > > guarantees, > > > > the Court chose to compromise and used sophistic social science > > in > > > a > > > > legal case that would cripple the education and lives of > > millions > > > of > > > > black children for generations to come. > > > > > > > > With all due respect to Judge Damon Keith (a jurist of the > > highest > > > > order) this gala event tomorrow [May 17, 2003] celebrating the > > > Brown > > > > v. Board of Education case, is a terrible tragedy, not because > I > > > > don't believe that black people should be allowed to attend > > school > > > > with whites. I am a black man--born and raised in Detroit and > > > > attended Detroit public schools with white children from K- 12. > > > > However, to celebrate a court case such as Brown, which is > > > obviously > > > > not based on a single judicial precedent, diminishes the > > > Constitution > > > > that every American should put its faith in to uphold. > > > > > > > > In 1954, there was a Faustian bargain made among the eight > > voting > > > > members of the U.S. Supreme Court, Congress, the President, as > > > well > > > > as every court in America, every political leader, every public > > > > school, private school, law school, university, academy, and > > every > > > > responsible American citizen. To give legitimacy to Brown v. > > Board > > > of > > > > Education, is to sacrifice lawful constitutional due process > and > > > > sound constitutional jurisprudence for the expediency of the > > > public > > > > policy fiction, which the Brown opinion solidified in American > > > > culture--that is, that black children must be allowed to attend > > > > public school with white children in order to get [equally] > > > educated. > > > > > > > > This type of misguided public policy presupposes that black > > > people, > > > > prior to 1954, were totally uneducated, ignorant and, just > > waiting > > > > for Masser to open up the school house door so us poor negroes > > can > > > > finally get educated by going to school with the white folks! > > Ms. > > > > Taylor, the hateful assumptions Brown makes about our people > > > should > > > > be publicly denounced by all rational persons of any race, > class > > > or > > > > creed. > > > > > > > > In the final analysis, I hope that you will read the selected > > > > passages on the Brown opinion in my book, The Inseparability of > > > Law > > > > and Morality: The Constitution, Natural Law and the Rule of Law > > > > (University Press of America,); mtownsend@, or > > > > http://www.univpress.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ ___ > Check out the new AOL. 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