If I understand you AsburyCouple, your assertion is that I'm wrong 
for having an answer.  I should not see it as black and white.

You think I have made the environmentalists who will oppose the this 
object of scorn.

I invite you to look at Clean Ocean Action's website.

Like me they have made up their mind.  

Are you equally upset with them for having an answer, for seeing it 
in Black and White?

If you are being fair, you must.

Their answer is contrary to mine.

Talk about scorn?  Hyperbole?

The top of their LNG page says "Stop the Insanity!"  (Susan Powter?)

They call the proposed development "Insanity Island."

They promote a YouTube video with no scientists, rather - you can 
guess it - Hollywood actors and actresses (and surfer).

I wrote down some of their argument (which is as I predicted):

"Corporate"  (a bad thing?)  money-makers (a bad thing?) dangerous 
and the people involved "Don't care"  [precisely, 100% as I 
predicted they would say]>

Global warming thrown in as a scare for good measure.

AND THE BIG LIE:  EVEN CLAIMING AND EXPLOSION WOULD BE AS POWERFUL 
AS A NUCLEAR BOMB!

BWAAAAHAAAHAAHAAAAHAAAHAAHAA!

Hey, don't these people believe that George Bush conned us into war 
by a false nuclear scare?  Did they adopt his tactics?

My point is, we need to build these terminals, so we can buy from 
friend and not enemies, de-regionalize the price structure, and have 
the infrastructure to ship to ourselves our own production if need 
be.


So what's your answer, AsburyCouple:  Is Clean Ocean Action wrong 
for having already decided on a position, or is it just me?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I don't know the right answer.  However Tom, you asked for more 
> clarification on my prior post.  Well, here it is below.  The 
world 
> is completely black and white.  Your point of view is 100% right, 
and 
> those who disagree are proactively villified:
> 
> "'Environmentalists'  will oppose it at all costs.  They 
> will "personalize" and declare anyone who disagrees with them as 
> greedy people who hate the earth."
> 
> So rather than looking at a reasonable dialog around the pros and 
> cons - it's a black and white world where anyone who disagrees is 
a 
> target for scorn.
> 
> Honestly, is there anyone on this board, whether conservative or 
> liberal, who doesn't understand what I'm saying.  Other than you 
> Tom...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
> <justifiedright@> wrote:
> >
> > The answer here is easy  - build it.  100% build it.
> > 
> > America uses about 90 quadrillion BTU of energy each year.
> > 
> > We produce about 70 quadrillion BTU.
> > 
> > That means we have to go on the market and buy the rest.
> > 
> > Russia, for example, uses about 22, and produces about 45.  They 
> can 
> > sell.
> > 
> > When we buy energy and use it, its gone.  
> > 
> > When they take our money, they still have it.
> > 
> > All we are doing is transfering American wealth to many 
countries 
> > that wish us no good.
> > 
> > But you know the rest of the story:
> > 
> > "Environmentalists"  will oppose it at all costs.  They 
> > will "personalize" and declare anyone who disagrees with them as 
> > greedy people who hate the earth.
> > 
> > They will flex their muscle with the Democrats, who won't dare 
go 
> > against them.
> > 
> > It won't get built.
> > 
> > We get weaker as our enemies get stronger.
> > 
> > Next thing you know Sarah Palin has Russians in her front yard.
> > 
> > I welcome our new Socialist overlords.
> > 
> > I like Vodka.
> >
>



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