The one off base is you - condescending attitude ("please"), making up
motivations ("boogeymen") and attributing them to me, ....
State policies encourage Open Government - thats a fact, not theories of
'boogeymen'. What exactly was the fear (in your mind or the committee's) to
having the public witness your deliberations?
Since the public was excluded from 'sitting-in' how does that instill
confidence in the process? Were minutes taken? Are they available?
Why do you think keeping the public out as observers was in the best interests
of Asbury Park? Was something confidential discussed? Did you have to sign a
confidentiality agreement?
Werner
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@...> wrote:
>
> Werner please, I can tell you personally that opening up to the public was at
> the forefront of every meeting of the committee. First we had to come to our
> own consensus of where we thought we should go before we opened it up to the
> public. We have and now its time to hear the public. And I personally was of
> the opinion that opening it up to the public before this point was premature
> and I have made a record in the past as being very critical. You are way,
> way, way off base open open records act etc. Stop seeing boogeymen in every
> corner. Public input will be taken via mail and email afterwards I believe so
> this has been from the very start mindful that its an open process.
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <wernerapnj@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The City's Waterfront Advisory Committee is giving it's public presentation
> > tonight ( 15th ) at 6pm. It is my understanding that public comment and
> > input will be solicited.
> >
> > This is very important... everyone who cares about Asbury Park should be
> > interested and attend. To date this entire process has been held in secret
> > without public observation (a possible violation of the Open Public
> > Meetings Act)
> >
> > I have asked for minutes and an attendee list - none have been provided...I
> > have asked for the proposal to be presented so as to prepare some
> > commentary - I was denied. (a possible violation of the Open Public Records
> > Act)
> >
> > There should be serious concerns about how this process was held... and how
> > the public, who this ultimately effects the most, has been excluded. Take
> > note that the current Waterfront Redevelopment Plan (which has failed) was
> > also negotiated in private and presented to the public after the fact.
> >
> > Its nice to talk about parking.. the food.. the beach... the boards...etc
> > etc But here's a chance to have a real impact, in spite of how we got to
> > this point, to make Asbury Park the best it can be. Comments will be
> > officially on the record... please plan to attend.
> >
> > Werner
> >
> > BTW - There is no mention of this meeting on the City's website Municipal
> > Calendar... Hmmmmmm.... ???
> >
>
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