This brings us back to the million dollar question, if the Assamese people are
not interested in what is happening to Rs 15000 croes or what is happening to
Assam-Asom, what then the people of Assam want? So far no intellectuals have
come forward neither against Assam-Asom issue nor against Rs15000. Are they
interested in anything at all? Does it matter to them whether Assam is in India
or in China for that matter? Are they alive? I take it back, they must be
alive, because they know how to cry, although they don't know what for they cry.
Barua
----- Original Message -----
From: Ram Sarangapani
To: Barua25
Cc: Dilip/Dil Deka ; ASSAMNET
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Chalo Delhi
Dear Barua,
>In case of Assam, they had to keep the people busy so that they donot have
time to >discuss what happened to Rs 15000 croes,
>Assamese intellectuals, the media and all are falling for it.
Actually, in the case of Assam, the people are either totally unaware or
just don't care of what happened to the Rs. 15000 crores, AND nor are they (it
seems so) upset or seem to care about the the name. (the Hobo Diok kicking in)
The reason I am saying this is, I don't see any mass-scale opposition (or for
that matter support) for the name change. Where is the passion?
As far as the intellectuals, they are not falling for it, but it seems they
want to have a "say" whether its right or wrong. To be in the limelight is
nice. And as for the media, they just want to sensationalize something where
there is absolutely none. They too don't know which horse to back these days.
--Ram
On 12/17/06, Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My feeling is that politicians and some "literary stalwarts" who have
little else to do, bring up non-issues like this from time to time. It seems
>like they just want to whip up some regional or linguistic frevor. Its all
hubris and rah-rah than anything else.
I will agree with that.
It is like re-arranging the furnitures in Titanic.
In case of Assam, they had to keep the people busy so that they donot have
time to discuss what happened to Rs 15000 croes,
Assamese intellectuals, the media and all are falling for it.
Barua
----- Original Message -----
From: Ram Sarangapani
To: Rajen & Ajanta Barua
Cc: Dilip/Dil Deka ; ASSAMNET
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Chalo Delhi
Dear Barua,
My basic argument is that, even though it may make "sense" , why is that
when the names were originally accepted - ie: Bangalore or Madras or Baroda or
Assam, the people in those days accepted the names without any problem?
Why is this becoming a trend now? Were those early people just plain
stupid that they accepted whatever names were given? What has changed?
My feeling is that politicians and some "literary stalwarts" who have
little else to do, bring up non-issues like this from time to time. It seems
like they just want to whip up some regional or linguistic frevor. Its all
hubris and rah-rah than anything else.
As far as Assam is concerned, the ONUS should be on the people who are
hell-bent on changing the name to Asom. They should provide the logic and
reasoning why such a name change is not just necessay but also imperative for
Assam's survival. Why should there be a need by those who are satisfied with
continuance of the name "Assam" bring in historical or other relevance so as
to convince the Assam Govt. not to change.
--Ram
On 12/17/06, Rajen & Ajanta Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Ramgopal:
If one looks at these name changes, all may make sense. In fact another
due change may be Baroda to Badodara.
But Assam to Asom does not make any sense at all. This is a classic
example of what we say in Assamese:
Dekhak dekhi kukurew pale ekadoxi.
or
Adak dekhi keturai bwle mwkw kha.
Barua
----- Original Message -----
From: Ram Sarangapani
To: Dilip/Dil Deka
Cc: ASSAMNET
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Chalo Delhi
Whats the world coming to. Here is a news item from the TOI along
some more name changes. Looks like these politicians and others have little
else to do.
From the TOI:
BHOPAL: After Mumbai, Chennai, Kolkata, Thiruvananthapuram and
Bengaluru, the Jabalpur Municipal Corporation has passed a resolution to rename
the city to Jabalipuram.
The BJP-ruled Madhya Pradesh government is also mulling renaming
Bhopal to Bhojpal and Indore to Indur.
The resolution was passed in the Jabalpur Municipal Corporation
meeting on Saturday, both by BJP and Congress members. Corporators said the
city was being renamed after a sage in the 'Ramayana'. The resolution has been
sent to the state government.
According to some BJP members, every part of the country should be
renamed after carrying out historical analysis and research.
BJP leader Anil Dave told TOI, "Post Independence, we removed British
statues from the country. So why can't we remove the British names of our
cities?"
"It was a demand by the people of Jabalpur to name it after 'rishi'
Jabali who had his meditation camp here," Jabalpur mayor Sushila Singh said.
"Let us connect our city with the history and culture of our country. Jabalpur
on the banks of river Narmada is a sacred place of Hindu sages."
Congress corporator Jagat Bahadur Singh said, "Sadhus gathered in my
ward in Narsingh and proposed that the city be renamed after sage Jabali. This
was Congress agenda, not the BJP's."
Renaming Bhopal to Bhojpal (the city of king Bhoj) after Bhoj Deva —
the Paramara king who ruled the region from 1010 AD to 1055 AD and was a
soldier, builder, scholar and patron of learning — was BJP's agenda.
Bhoj Deva's position in history matched Vikramaditya Chandragupta II
who ruled from Ujjaini (now Ujjain).
The first attempt to connect Bhopal to Raja Bhoj was made in 2002
when the name of the city's airport was changed to Raja Bhoj International
Airport.
--Ram
On 12/17/06, Dilip/Dil Deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Here we go again. Not being able to solve it locally, Assam has to
appeal to Delhi to intervene.
It is intriguing that we do not know who is instigating this
change. The chief minister doesn't have the passion for the change. A large
number of community organizations don't want it. Then who does?
I am not commenting on the name itself but on the process. The lack
of will to handle local problems locally is a symptom of a deeper complex.
Dilip Deka
Guwahati, Sunday, December 17, 2006
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'Asom' faces strong opposition
By A Staff Reporter
GUWAHATI, Dec 16 – Though the State Assembly passed a resolution
yesterday on voice vote to replace 'Assam' with 'Asom' as per the February 27,
2006 decision of the State Cabinet, there prevails a strong opposition to the
decision. Opposition members like Leader of the Opposition Brindaban Goswami,
AGP's Anup Phukan and CPI's Drupad Bargohain were on their feet yesterday
demanding discussion on the resolution moved by Environment and Forests
Minister Rockybul Hussain on behalf of the State Government. But the Speaker
silenced them saying that the stage to initiate discussion on the move was
over.
After the session was over, Anup Phukan told newsmen that even
Chief Minister Gogoi was pronouncing the name of the State as 'Assam'. The Tai
Ahom organizations are opposed to the idea of replacing 'Assam' with 'Asom'.
The Government should have gone for a detailed discussion on the issue, Phukan
said.
Leader of the Opposition Brindaban Goswami said while speaking to
this newspaper today, that the Opposition members tried yesterday to initiate a
discussion on the issue. But they were denied any scope to that effect.
Elaborating, Goswami said, with several organizations and scholars
opposing the move to replace 'Assam' with 'Asom', a debate on the issue was on.
The Government also constituted an expert committee to examine the issue. It
was not clear as to whether the Government moved the resolution as per the
recommendation of the expert committee or following its discussion with the
organizations of the ethnic groups and the scholars, Goswami said.
Meanwhile, the Tai Ahom National Council, the apex body of the Tai
Ahom organizations, is preparing to move the court challenging the resolution.
The Council has also decided to convene a meeting of the Tai Ahom
organizations, the organizations of the ethnic groups like the
Koch-Rajbongshis, the Morans and Motoks, the Deuris, the Sonowal Kacharis and
the Chutiyas and the like-minded people who have been opposing the move to
effect a change in the spelling. The meeting is planned in the city in the next
week, said working president of the Council Dr Prabin Konwar here today.
The Council, which has 12 Tai Ahom organizations as its affiliates,
submitted a memorandum to the State Government drawing its attention to the
historical documents, which suggest the existence of the name 'Assam' from time
immemorial, Dr Konwar said.
The Council also contended the argument that Bombay became Mumbai,
Madras became Chennai, Calcutta became Kolkata, Gauhati became Guwahati and
Sibsagar became Sivasagar recently and this should also apply to 'Assam' and it
should be replaced with 'Asom', saying that all those changes were effected
only to undo the wrong committed by the British colonial rulers.
But in the case of 'Assam', the council argued, long before the
advent of the British colonial rulers to this part of the country, Sihabuddin
Talis, who accompanied Mirjumla, described the State as 'Assam'. Even Srimanta
Sankaradeva described the State as Assam in the 14 th century AD, it argued in
its memorandum to the State Government submitted after the February 27 decision
of the State Cabinet.
Dr Konwar said that despite large-scale opposition to the Cabinet
decision, the Government led by Tarun Gogoi stuck to the decision mysteriously
failing to honour the sentiments of the indigenous people.
The Council has also decided to send memorandums to the President,
Prime Minister and the Ministry's concerned and all the MPs from the NE region
to veto the State Assembly resolution, Dr Konwar said.
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