If your statement is correct, it may mean that there is actually no democracy,
no govt rule of law, in the cities which actually proves my point. Some
dictators are runjning the cities.
Rajenda
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Rajen-da,
Your view shows that you have never stayed in Indian metros -where govt
officials do not rule.
Umesh
Rajen & Ajanta Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Umesh:
India has always been ruled by the 5% elite. In the old days it was the
Aryan high cast Brahmins and Khsatriyas. To get into that circle one had to
study a lot, learn how to speak and write Sanskrit.
Today it is the 5% IAS officers and 1% MLAs and MPs whom you elect to
govern. You have to learn to speak and write English to get into that circle.
The rest 95% were always the ignorant people being ruled, in ancient time,
during the British Raj and now.
I donot see any difference.
Rajenda
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Rajen-da,
The dictatorship is too much of a term - it depends where you are in
India - those in metros definitely are having full democracy and as you go into
interiors where law and literacy are remote it becomes dictatorhip by the
elected.
See the video of Indira's India of 1984 - Sikh Holocaust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MasMHq7oUs&NR=1
Umesh
Rajen & Ajanta Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Umesh:
India is best described as 'an elected dictatorship'.
Rajenda
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democracy
Rajen-da
Good example of India-Shining rhetoric.
But just becos there is peace (despite armed militancy in 25% of
India's districts- NE, Kashmir, Bihar, Central India, LTTE South India etc etc)
and not many are dying of starvation and voting not by reading election
manifestos but by recognizing cartoons (election symbols) of political parties
.
Even democratically elected communist govt (an anamoly) of West
Bengal is allegedly in power for past 25 years non-stop since a nexus
prevents anyone from voting against the "party" or else face
ex-communication a-la erstwhile Pope's rule in Europe in medieval times -as per
a Bengali researcher .
But ofcourse noone can deny that despite is shortcomings the India
that is Bharat is growing - despite spoofs like Hollywood's "Borat" movie
(Bharat ??) from Kazakhstan (Rajasthan???)
Umesh
Rajen & Ajanta Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Following may be added from another review about the book:
India is the country that was never expected to ever be a country.
In the late 19th century, Sir John Strachey, a senior British official, grandly
opined that the territory's diverse states simply could not possess any sort of
unity, physical, political, social or religious. Strachey, clearly, was wrong:
India today is a unified entity and a rising global power. Even so, it
continues to defy explanation. India's existence, says Guha, an internationally
known scholar (Environmentalism: A Global History), has also been an anomaly
for academic political science, according to whose axioms cultural
heterogeneity and poverty do not make a nation, still less a democratic one.
Yet India continues to exist. Guha's aim in this startlingly ambitious
political, cultural and social survey is to explain why and how. He cheerfully
concludes that India's continuing existence results from its unique diversity
and its refusal to be pigeonholed into such conventional political models as
Anglo-American liberalism, French republicanism, atheistic communism or
Islamist theocracy. India is proudly sui generis, and with August 15, 2007,
being the 60th anniversary of Indian independence, Guha's magisterial history
of India since that day comes not a moment too soon. 32 pages of b&w illus., 8
maps.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 10:42 PM
Subject: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi
Good review of a grand 900 page book on India recently published:
India After Gandhi: The History of the World's Largest Democracy
by Ramachandra Guha
From The Washington Post's Book World/washingtonpost.com
Reviewed by George Perkovich
A toast to India on its 60th birthday: No country has more
heroically pursued the promise of democracy. Against the odds of staggering
poverty, conflicting religious passions, linguistic pluralism, regional
separatism, caste injustice and natural resource scarcity, Indians have lifted
themselves largely by their own sandal straps to become a stalwart democracy
and emerging global power. India has risen with epic drama -- a nonviolent
struggle for independence followed by mass mayhem and bloodletting, dynastic
succession and assassination, military victory and defeat, starvation succeeded
by green revolution, political leaders as saints, sinners and sexual ascetics.
And yet, the Indian story rarely has been told and is practically unknown to
Americans.
India After Gandhi masterfully fills the void. India needs a wise
and judicious narrator to convey its scale, diversity and chaos -- to describe
the whirlwind without getting lost in it. It needs a biographer neither
besotted by love nor enraged by disappointment. Ramachandra Guha, a historian
who has taught at Stanford and Yale and now lives in Bangalore, has given
democratic India the rich, well-paced history it deserves.
Much will be new to American readers. Large-scale conflicts in
India's northeast between tribal groups and the center have been as enduring,
and in some ways as important, as the more familiar violence in Kashmir. The
framing of India's constitution from 1946 through 1949 should induce awe,
especially in light of Iraq's post-Saddam experience.
In the midst of Hindu-Muslim bloodshed, a flood of 8 million
refugees, starvation, and other profound conflicts, Indian representatives
worked out constitutional provisions to protect minorities, keep religion out
of state power, correct thousands of years of caste discrimination and
redistribute power and wealth accumulated by still-regnant princely states.
This was done with no external guidance or pressure. The drafting committee was
chaired by an "untouchable," B.R. Ambedkar -- analogies are inexact, but
imagine if James Madison at the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention had been
a freed slave.
Specialists will quicken over insights from the private papers of
Indira Gandhi's confidant, P.N. Haksar, who gave his papers to Guha. These
documents reveal, among other things, that it was the Soviet Union that
proposed the 1971 treaty of cooperation and friendship between the two
countries, and that suspicion of China motivated both nations more than was
appreciated at the time.
Miniature biographies of grassroots leaders and movements also
enliven Guha's storytelling. Jay Aprakash Narayan -- "JP" -- plays a leading
role. A onetime friend of Nehru who became the bête noir of his daughter,
Indira Gandhi, JP led a massive movement for radical governmental reform in
1974-75, which moved Indira Gandhi to declare a national emergency and suspend
democracy.
Some themes go under-explored: For example, why has the Indian
Army abstained from interfering in politics, unlike the military in many other
developing countries? And why has India given short shrift to primary
education, even as it has developed technological institutes that rival M.I.T?
Many chapters begin or end with India's future in doubt. "India
is almost infinitely depressing," Aldous Huxley wrote in 1961, "for there seems
to be no solution to its problems in any way that any of us [in the West]
regard as acceptable." He predicted that "when Nehru goes, the government will
become a military dictatorship." Guha records that "ever since the country was
formed there have also been many Indians who have seen the survival of India as
being on the line, some (the patriots) speaking or writing in fear, others (the
secessionists or revolutionaries) with anticipation."
Yet, marvelously, India's survival as a democracy seems more
assured than ever. Less clear is the nature of its relationship with America.
Since 2005, the U.S. and Indian governments have moved toward nuclear
cooperation, reversing 30 years of U.S. policy against nuclear assistance to
countries that refuse to sign the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.
Washington clearly views India as a counterbalance to China's
strategic power. But Guha records an important historical parallel.
In 1962, China crossed disputed boundaries in the northwest and
northeast of India. A shocked Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru abandoned
nonalignment and pleaded for emergency U.S. military assistance. Ambassador
John Kenneth Galbraith wrote to President Kennedy: "The only Asian country
which really stands in [China's] way is India and pari passu the only Western
country that is assuming responsibility is the United States. . . . We should
expect to make use of India's political position, geographical position,
political power and manpower or anyhow ask."
Four decades later, another Harvard professor-cum-American
ambassador to India, Robert Blackwill, championed the proposed nuclear deal
with similar reasoning. As different as the presidents they served, Blackwill
and Galbraith were tempted by strategic abstraction and a desire to raise
"their" country -- India -- in American priorities. Yet supplying arms to India
in 1962 did not make India any more deferential to U.S. foreign policy.
Washington will delude itself again if it thinks that nuclear India will be a
pliant instrument in its geostrategy. As long as India is a democracy, it will
go its own way.
To comprehend India's achievement, imagine if Mexico became the
51st of the United States, followed by Brazil, Argentina and the rest of
Central and South America. Add Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Bahrain to give this
union the Sunni-Shia mix of India. The population then represented in Congress
would still be smaller and less diverse linguistically, religiously, culturally
and economically than India's. If such a state could democratically manage the
interests and conflicts swirling within it, and not threaten its neighbors, the
world should ask little else from it. If we were such a state, we would feel
that our humane progress contributes so much to global well-being that smaller,
richer, easier-to-manage states should not presume to tell us what to do.
Sixty years after Gandhi, India has earned greater appreciation
than we give it.
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