While I would defend that India does not generate fools and US does not generate only geniuses

*** How very thoughtful! Set up a target that is absurdly low or absurdly high and then bring it down and establish your astuteness in being able to see thru it!





At 11:01 PM -0700 10/2/07, umesh sharma wrote:
Krishnendu-da,

While I would defend that India does not generate fools and US does not generate only geniuses I must admit that quality of India's govt run run schools can never be compared with US govt schools. 90% of USA's school students graduate from govt/public schools and the percentage of selection into top colleges is same for private or public schools.

The top govt school in US is about 10 miles from where I stay is http://www.tjhsst.edu/ which sent about 10 students to Harvard (admission as tough as in IITs in India) quite similar to the success of students of top US private school Phillips Academy Andover http://www.andover.edu/

Charter schools are run by private non profits but funded by govt -less well funded that govt schools. Charter schools are successful since many govt schools -esp in poorer areas like everywhere else are not as competitive and effecient as they could be given the funds.

Umesh

At 6:29 AM -0700 10/2/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote:
 >>seven kids out of a country of a billion people,
knowing what I do,

** You wanted examples which I have provided (SEVEN
against ONE which you cited).  If you are willing and
have time, you can search web to find more such kids
from India BOTH from public and private institution
(as cited by Umesh).



While I am unwilling to
pass verdict on the condition of Indian education

You SHOULD NOT since you have no clue of today's India
nor are you willing to learn


Why is it that Kendriya Vidyalays get special
funding , special
teachers, while the rest of the country has to make
do with what they
have to?

Education is a matter of STATE Govt.  While the Govt
funded institutes in some states are doing pretty good
it is NOT so for other states.  It is analogous to
blaming me because you wasted your money on gambling
(or whatever may be) while you too had every
opportunity to utilize your money fruitfully.

In US NOT all public schools are equal ... as I
understand,  some school districts are considered
superior to others.   So let us know why SOME schools
do better then other schools.  And then  there are
Charter Schools which get more funds.



umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well as in India not all US public/govt schools are the same. The Indian govt school my father studied at ( www.rimc.org ) sent a graduate to Harvard College recently (2002 I think) - an incentive for me to try the same.

Similarly Kendriya Vidyalayas in India are central govt run schools and have sent graduates to IITs and beyond.

In US as well schools in rich suburbs get upto 6 times more per student funding ($25,000 per year) as compared to those in innercity/urban schools ($6,000 per year) - hence it depends upon which neighborhood you are in .

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/03/18/a_nobel_champion_enters_fray/
Here is a take by Nobel Laureate Mello now in MA (who studied in Fairfax High School near my place ) on why he wants to put his children in private schools unless the local school district fund the local schools better - he wants to put his own Nobel prize money into it if need be - those in poorer neighborhoods in US cannot expect the same funds from local residents (as must be known nearly all funding for US govt schools comes from property taxes of that city.

Umesh
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [Assam] From Posoowa--Example of Creativity in High Sc
That was nice to note.

One significant difference: All of the students from India are from Private Schools. Nandinee is from a public high school ( not like Indian Public School, as in Doon School etc.), Shawnee Mission East High School, Kansas.









At 1:43 PM -0700 10/1/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote:

Congratulations Nandini

C'da, you might be interested in these too

http://www.hindu.com/2007/05/21/stories/2007052104521300.htm

http://www.educationuk.org/clubukindia/1/news_india_youth.html



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