I have only one question here Uttam: Just because Bikash Das or anybody else throws some innuendo or charge against somebody else, does it mean that the target of such charges, innuendos, must explain them ?
If netter A demands to from netter B when he stopped beating his wife, is netter B REQUIRED to answer the question to clear his name? Is there even a semblance of justice in such accusations or innuendos. And when Netter B refutes such an accusation, are you or I equipped to sit in judgement of that ? Would you even wish to? To be specific, what do you know of Bikash Das or what do I know, to give his charges or innuendos any credence? Think about it. c-da On Aug 12, 2010, at 10:32 AM, uttam borthakur wrote: > Dear Sri Dhruba Jyoti Deka, > Since I have quite a few personal friends among the senior journalists at > Guwahati, I had inquired if they knew you. Since it came as a blank, I was > worried,as you have started using not very appropriate language (though your > intention may not have been that) against a nation and being unkind to the > netters here (except Chandan Da) for not giving due importance that you > thought you had deserved. On the top of it, Dr. Bikash Das, who has been > around with us for quite some time now, seemed to have reservations about > your erstwhile conduct. > I was worried because I did not want to get involved in an unwarranted > conversation. Though you have yet to reply to Dr. Das's portrayal of your > past conduct ( which would be material to me because I would not get into a > situation where Sri Amar Jyoti Borah would sermonize me only because I > protested your vituperative attack on a community as a whole). > Since Sri Rajbongshi is out on tour, we should not disturb him for a while. > If I feel like I have to, I shall try to know about your journalistic > exploits and social actions from the references you have given, as some other > senior people could not place you. > In the meanwhile, we may engage in discussions about events with dignity. > I hope you understand. > > Uttam Kumar Borthakur > > --- On Thu, 12/8/10, Dhruba Jyoti Deka <dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka <dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com> > Subject: RE: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister > To: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in, "assamnet org" <assam@assamnet.org> > Date: Thursday, 12 August, 2010, 3:19 PM > > > > > > > Dear Borthakur da, > > > > Yet I do not have the email id of Rajbangshi sir. As known to me, he didn't > use email, but not sure about current. I haven't talked with him for last 3 > months. May be he is in use of email. Well, I will ask Sir about it. But > currently Sir is in tour, along with few others. He is on roaming. > > > > As you have gently asked me, I must honor your honesty. Well, till you can > talk to Rajbangshi sir, I can send you the scanned copies of those reports. > But I haven't have all copies, let me check how many copies(out of several > serials) I have. > > > > Borthakurda, I do not do Freelance. I stepped into Print media through AJI & > NATOON SOMOY(That time Editor was Ajit Kr Bhuyan) in 2003 August, with a > serial report named "ULFA-r Swadhin Axom-r Swopno DuSwopno". In 2005, I moved > to NATOON DIN, for 3 special investigation reports i.e. (a) The Exposure of > Backdated Education Scandal of Nalbari District, (b) Unseen stories of Secret > Killing age of Mahanta's rulling & (c) Position of Missing ULFA leaders in > Bhutan war. Then I was to move to AJI again in late 2005, but the media was > to be sold to Anil Majumdar. Almost all staff of Aji moved to another media, > after the ownership changed to Anil Majumdar in 2006 July. I didn't go > anywhere, and Ajit Bhuyan too. Ajit Bhuyan joined Pratidin in 2008 March > after a break of 2 years. And I joined Adinor Sambad (Edit by Adip Kr Phukan) > as Spl Reporter. As well as I am the lone webmaster of the ePaper of Adinor > Sambad i.e. www.adinorsambad.com > > > > I always had & yet have PRESS CARD issued by the Media house, I worked. I > think yet I am not Free Lancer. Am I correct? > > > > If you want proofs, I can send you the scanned copies of my news, articles, > press cards etc. But not in this mailing list. I can send you to your own > email id. What you say? > > > > Manybody says, nobody knows me as Journalist, then how come I claim myself as > it is. For those manybody, I have to say nothing. Because my interest of > Journalism is Insurgency bit. So you can understand, why nobody knows me as > Journalist. I do not hjave any interest on running behind of any Political > leader(whether rulling or opposition) nor any other type. I choose my own > bit, for my adventure. This is the truth. You can understand now, who knows > me as Journalist and who doesn't know. > > > > Regards- > > > Dhruba Jyoti Deka > > > > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 07:50:49 +0530 > From: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in > Subject: RE: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister > To: assam@assamnet.org; amarjyotibo...@gmail.com; dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com > > > > > > Dear Srijut Deka, > > > I can talk to Dr. Rajbongshi over phone. But that would not be transparent. > For the sake of transparency, and since you have made the claim through the > net involving so many people, could you please send me the e-mail id, so that > what I would ask him would be available to you as well as the assamnet. In > case you do not have it, or not in a position to collect it from him, then > let me try to get it myself. But if you can give, it will save me the bother, > as I do not belong to your profession which surely has an advantage here. By > the way, you report for particular house or are you freelance? > > > Uttam Kumar Borthakur > > --- On Wed, 11/8/10, Dhruba Jyoti Deka <dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka <dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com> > Subject: RE: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister > To: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in, "assamnet org" <assam@assamnet.org>, > amarjyotibo...@gmail.com > Date: Wednesday, 11 August, 2010, 9:51 PM > > > > > #yiv1548604888 .yiv1548604888ExternalClass #yiv1548604888ecxyiv1203578985 > .yiv1548604888ecxyiv1203578985hmmessage P > {padding:0px;} > #yiv1548604888 .yiv1548604888ExternalClass #yiv1548604888ecxyiv1203578985 > .yiv1548604888ecxyiv1203578985hmmessage > {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} > > > Dear Borthakur, > > > The Cell no of Dr Paramananda Rajbangshi(current Secretary of Xahitya Xobha) > is 9864049782. > > > And I would like you to give 2 add ons also which will help you to find out > the truth. > > > 1] Remind Mr Rajbangshi that you are referred by me(Dhruba Jyoti Deka, > Reporter), to talk about the Reports about Axom Xahitya Xobha that were > published in 2004, in AJI & NATOON SOMOY. > > > 2] Ask what result the report was able to bring out. > > > Hope, you will not take it in negative sense. If you talk in proper manner to > Dr Rajbangshi, I am confident you will find out the truth. Hope you willn't > play it as to beat me. :P > > > Again no hard feeling. > > > > > P.S. Regardingg to Akhil Gogoi, I do not hesitate to say that yet I have not > either meet him or talk to him. If you have enjoyed throwing this issue about > Akhil Gogoi, then I am too happy to know that you are having some fun also > here. > > > -Regards > > > Dhruba Jyoti Deka > > > > > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:37:24 +0530 > From: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in > Subject: RE: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister > To: assam@assamnet.org; amarjyotibo...@gmail.com; dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com > > > > > > > Dear Sri D J Deka, > > Please send me Dr. Parama Nanda Rajbongshi's cell no. and e-mail address. Let > me forward your mail to him. I got to verify how you made Srijut Rong Bong > Terang the President with his help. I should take a leaf from your actions. > Learning is continuous process and I am quite open to learning from anyone. > > If you do not believe in discussions, why are you here? It is only a > mailing list. And in a mailing list, no body can possibly shout, can one do > that? Since you are a person of action, as you are saying it a number of > times, go and help Akhil Gogoi, he's doing much better things not being a > self-proclaimed journalist, not being a member of a mailing list...... and in > fact mailing lists, blogs are writing about him and his organistaion KMSS. > > Now don't tell me, you have made him what he's today and KMSS is your > brain-child:-) > > > Uttam Kumar Borthakur > > --- On Wed, 11/8/10, Dhruba Jyoti Deka <dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka <dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com> > Subject: RE: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister > To: "assamnet org" <assam@assamnet.org>, amarjyotibo...@gmail.com > Cc: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in > Date: Wednesday, 11 August, 2010, 7:27 PM > > > > > #yiv1548604888 .yiv1548604888ExternalClass #yiv1548604888ecxyiv1203578985 > .yiv1548604888ecxyiv1203578985ExternalClass > #yiv1548604888ecxyiv1203578985ecxyiv1809738520 > .yiv1548604888ecxyiv1203578985ecxyiv1809738520hmmessage P > {padding:0px;} > #yiv1548604888 .yiv1548604888ExternalClass #yiv1548604888ecxyiv1203578985 > .yiv1548604888ecxyiv1203578985ExternalClass > #yiv1548604888ecxyiv1203578985ecxyiv1809738520 > .yiv1548604888ecxyiv1203578985ecxyiv1809738520hmmessage > {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} > > Dear Mr Borah, > > > Agree with you. I am against all kind of separation. Regardless who are they. > > > If Gohains and Brahmins insulted them, there Parag Kumar Das too who always > stood with them in their problems. Don't forget it too. > > > You are telling about other ethnic groups. I am against separation. This is > sure. And I always trying as per my capability to prevent it. > > > Just an example. In 2004, when I was new to Journalism, I did a serial report > against "Borno-Hindu Axomiya" Domination in "Axom Xahitya Xobha". I did > several report against the then President Kanaksen Deka(though I am too a > Deka :P). But my intention was to prevent this domination. Dr Paramananda > Rajbangshi helped me in my report. In result Dr Rajbangshi was expelled for > lifetime from Xahitya Xobha, by President Kanaksen Deka. All the reports are > reserved as a BOOKLET in Xahitya Xobha's head office i.e. Jorhat. It was Dr > Rajbangshi & my try, which brought Rong Bong Terang to the President of > Xahitya Xobha. Ask Dr Rajbangshi, if you have doubt on my say. > > > I am not opposing the separation by only speech, but also practically. That > is why I always use strong words against actless shouts. Without any > practical act, no shouting can do anything. > > > Again, no hard feeling. Still I believe for practical Act, not only > discussion & shouts. > > > Regards- > > > Dhruba Jyoti Deka > >> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:06:30 +0530 >> From: amarjyotibo...@gmail.com >> To: assam@assamnet.org >> CC: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in >> Subject: Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister >> >> Dear Mr. Borthakur, Deka and others, >> >> the internet is a tool which is very important, use it properly but please >> don't misuse it and try to create differences between the various >> communities residing in Assam. Read and learn Assam history before making >> statements. >> What do you mean by Bodos and Assamese? Don't you that Bodos are people who >> fall within the Greater Assamese Community. If you say that Bodos are not >> assamese, tomorrow the Mishing will say they are not Assamese, next the Nath >> community will say and one day it will be the Kalitas. >> What about the karbis? Will you say they are also not Assamese, in case you >> don't know let me tell you that the Present of the Asom Sahitya Sabha is a >> person belonging to the Karbi Community. Also I can bet he is much well >> versed in Asaamese than you and me. >> Regarding the Bodo people's anger, do you know how they are treated by >> members of the other communities in Assam. I have come across instanced when >> the Brahmins. Gohanis have told Boro people that it is a sin to drink water >> touched by a Bodo. >> So who should be blamed then. >> Think before writing. >> >> Amarjyoti Borah, >> Guwahati >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka < >> dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Dear Borthakur, >>> Before answering you, I again highlight what I said as major. The >>> highlighted are in reds.Just Bullshit. Down to ABSU. When disaster comes on >>> them, they shouts that they are Assamese. Bull shit. Remember the situation >>> of Darrang in August of 2008. There were communal clash between Bodo ethnic >>> group & Muslim. And what those Bodo claimed? They claimed it as "Assamese vs >>> Bangladeshi". While the entire incident started from a marriage between a >>> Muslim boy & a Bodo Girl, which turned into communal clash and resulted the >>> 30 October, 2008 blast(Anybody want to ask me how?). Look at their >>> character. When problems come, they become Assamese. They are just >>> jokers.Now say, whom I said Bull Shit? Hope people who has least sense of >>> idea, can understand. This is you who is finding some other sense instead of >>> real points.Nothing to say, who doesn't try to listen or understand, but >>> only speaks.No hard feelings. >>> Regards-Dhruba Jyoti DekaPS: About your say That day you were using strong >>> language against those who you perceived did not respond to your call for >>> setting up some sort of a web-site , I proudly want to say that I got single >>> response from Chandan Mahanta Khura from this mailing list, and got few too >>> young boys from Orkut for that mission. With Chandan Khura & those youth's >>> help we are going to start the Web Portal by August End. Those youth are not >>> so financially efficient, just they get bellow 10K as salary, but their >>> willingness and acts are great. May be this is bad news for you people, that >>> I have got at least few people, with whom we(I+the others) are going to >>> launch our desired web portal so soon. The brand name is Times of Assam. And >>> the url is www.timesofassam.com Hope you people will also have a look >>> after August(you can have look now too, but yet too input more contents). >>> Again no hard feelings. >>>> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:53:26 +0530 >>>> From: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in >>>> To: assam@assamnet.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear D J Deka, >>>> >>>> There are agent provocateurs always trying to cause vertical divisions >>> among people for their vote bank politics and thereby they succeed in >>> tearing apart the social fabric. If one gets carried away by such >>> inducements and hurl verbal abuse at a nation as a whole, would it augur >>> well for generations to come who would have to live with one another. Will >>> you reconsider, get the facts correct and in proper perspective, by trying >>> to see as to who gains from fatricidal wars, before using such abusive >>> language? The things in life are not black and white, they are mostly grey, >>> as age would let you know, unless you are incorrigible, and like to see >>> through jaundiced eys. >>>> >>>> That day you were using strong language against those who you perceived >>> did not respond to your call for setting up some sort of a web-site. Since >>> you are supposed to be on a never-before-tried saintly mission, are you not >>> supposed to behave like a saint and be forgiving? With your smug outbursts, >>> have you not shown exhibited contempt towards your own kind? Now, you go >>> against Bodos as a nation! >>>> >>>> Please think over, will you? Or you are going to call me horse-shit or >>> some more demeaning stuff? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dhruba Jyoti Deka >>>> >>>> Just Bullshit. Down to ABSU. When disaster comes on them, they shouts >>> that they are Assamese. Bull shit. Remember the situation of Darrang in >>> August of 2008. There were communal clash between Bodo ethnic group & >>> Muslim. And what those Bodo claimed? They claimed it as "Assamese vs >>> Bangladeshi". While the entire incident started from a marriage between a >>> Muslim boy & a Bodo Girl, which turned into communal clash and resulted the >>> 30 October, 2008 blast(Anybody want to ask me how?). Look at their >>> character. When problems come, they become Assamese. They are just jokers. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Uttam Kumar Borthakur >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> assam mailing list >>>> assam@assamnet.org >>>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> assam mailing list >>> assam@assamnet.org >>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> assam mailing list >> assam@assamnet.org >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org _______________________________________________ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org