How many people the Indian military has killed in Kashmir, Assam, the Northeast of current India, Punjab in the 1980s?
Jugal > Jugal-da, > > You did not specify that ULFA and their Paki ISI and Dawood Ibrahim > brethren are not only sacrificing their own lives but also killing people > all over the world. Dawood's crony Osama Bin Laden recently killed so many > in London and now threatens many more innocent lives. > > Umesh > > Jugal-da wrote: > The others are in the field sacrificing their careers and lives for > something they > believe in, even though you and we are free to disagree with them. > > "J. Kalita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think you are like the ULFA or anyone seeking independence, > autonomy or whatever in Assam. You are ensconced in the prosperity and > security of America. The only thing you do is write, mostly in an > ambiguous and scrutable and sometimes unscrutable manner. The others are > in the field sacrificing their careers and lives for something they > believe in, even though you and we are free to disagree with them. This is > the fundamental difference between wordsmiths like you and me, and the > likes of the ULFA and other liberation-seekers. > > Jugal > >>> > *** Unlike me or you, ULFA is made up of people, who, rightly or >>> > wrongly, claim to represent the wishes of the people of Assam. >> >> The above sentence is grammatically and logically incorrect, and does >> not >> mean anything if you analyze. >> We all, rightly or wrongly, claim to represent the popular opinion of >> the >> Assam. So the word unlike does not go there. And when you remove the >> word >> unlike, ULFA becomes like anybody else, me or you, us. >> Rajen >> >>> > >>> > >>> > *** Unlike me or you, ULFA is made up of people, who, rightly or >>> > wrongly, claim to represent the wishes of the people of Assam. Their >>> > constituency, their supporters, also believe that Indian political >>> > machinations have hurt Assam's interests. >>> > >>> > You may not accept that. But that is different. >>> > >>> > >>> >> >Who is the ULFA to tell the Assamese whom they should or shouldn't >>> >>invite from Delhi? >>> > >>> > >>> > Same explanation here. >>> > >>> > >>> >> >Why do you assume that just because some minister comes down from >>> >>Delhi to lecture, it is necessarily bad or polarizing for Assam. >>> > >>> > >>> > Come on Ram, you keep missing the obvious: ULFA does not recognize >>> > Indian controls over Assam. That is why they are telling Indians to >>> > keep out. It is not about whether it might be good or bad for Assam. >>> > >>> > >>> > But let me ask you this: Is it good for Assam, for its elections to >>> > be INFLUENCED by remote interests from elsewhere in India? >>> > >>> > >>> >> >Assuming ONLY regional parties participate in the elections, how >>> will >>> >>that benefit ULFA? >>> > >>> > >>> > I cannot speak for ULFA. But I am of the belief that Assam's >>> > interests are best served by political parties who are rooted in >>> > Assam, and whose elections are not interfered with by outside >>> > interests. That is what local self-government is all about. >>> > >>> > >>> >> >All of this just pure humbug. What the ULFA is probably trying to >>> do >>> >>is to draw some attention to themselves. They have been left out to >>> >>dry for a while, so passing a Dikat here and a Dikat there might >>> >>actually bring the spotlight on them. >>> > >>> > >>> > You may be right, or you may be wrong. Neither has anything to do >>> > with the premise of the original argument and conclusions, that >>> > started this debate. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>As for polarization problems, sitting cozily in Bangladesh, passing >>> >>dikats, and encouraging illegal immigration does more to polarize >>> than >>> >>anything else. >>> > >>> > >>> > You can spin it anyway you wish. But can you show how ULFA is either >>> > encouraging illegal migration, or causing polarizations in Assam? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > At 11:03 AM -0500 8/3/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote: >>> >>C'da >>> >> >>> >>> If you were to be an independent >>> >>>observer and well-wisher of Assam, would that seem unreasonable or >>> >>>bad for Assam ? >>> >> >>> >>Of course, we are all well-wishers of Assam. But what has that go to >>> >>do with ULFA's 'interest' in an election conducted by Indian >>> >>authorities. They are the ones passing out dikats left and right, and >>> >>basically infringing upon the free will of the Assamese people (not >>> >>you and I). >>> >> >>> >>Who is the ULFA to tell the Assamese whom they should or shouldn't >>> >>invite from Delhi? Don't the Assamese in Assam know what is or what >>> is >>> >>not polarizing, instead of having the ULFA intelligensia forcing them >>> >>to think otherwise and dictating behavior? >>> >> >>> >>Why do you assume that just because some minister comes down from >>> >>Delhi to lecture, it is necessarily bad or polarizing for Assam. When >>> >>Assam had no regional parties, was Assam more (or less) polarized >>> than >>> >>it is now? >>> >> >>> >>Assuming ONLY regional parties participate in the elections, how will >>> >>that benefit ULFA? >>> >> >>> >>All of this just pure humbug. What the ULFA is probably trying to do >>> >>is to draw some attention to themselves. They have been left out to >>> >>dry for a while, so passing a Dikat here and a Dikat there might >>> >>actually bring the spotlight on them. >>> >> >>> >>As for polarization problems, sitting cozily in Bangladesh, passing >>> >>dikats, and encouraging illegal immigration does more to polarize >>> than >>> >>anything else. >>> >> >>> >>--Ram >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>On 8/3/05, Chan Mahanta wrote: >>> >>> > >Huh! So, it now seems that inspite of ULFA NOT recognizing >>> Indian >>> >>> >rule, they are still interested in an election conducted and >>> >>> >participated by the Indians. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **** I can't answer that. I was merely examining the logic of the >>> >>> original post, and the conclusions drawn. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> But one thing can be surmised: That the ULFA is attempting to >>> prevent >>> >>> interference of Indian political parties and injection of >>> regressive >>> >> > Indian attitudes and polarizing influences into Assam society. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > >So, the more important question would be, how does it matter >>> who >>> >>> wins >>> >>> >the elections in Assam to ULFA? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **** ULFA could very well be interested in that. Even I could be >>> :-). >>> >>> I certainly would not want to see communal polarizations grow in >>> >>> Assam, fanned on by Indian Hindu supremacist bigots.Would you ? It >>> >>> could also bee to discourage political corruption spurred on by >>> >>> Indian black-money and vote-banking >>> >>> and other nefarious activities. If you were to be an independent >>> >>> observer and well-wisher of Assam, would that seem unreasonable or >>> >>> bad for Assam ? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> At 9:00 AM -0500 8/3/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote: >>> >>> > >Considering that ULFA does not recognize India's rule over >>> Assam, >>> >>> it >>> >>> >>makes all the sense in the world to them to not allow an >>> occupying >>> >>> >>power to interfere in the elections of its state. >>> >>> > >>> >>> >Huh! So, it now seems that inspite of ULFA NOT recognizing Indian >>> >>> >rule, they are still interested in an election conducted and >>> >>> >participated by the Indians. >>> >>> > >>> >>> >So, the more important question would be, how does it matter who >>> wins >>> >>> >the elections in Assam to ULFA? Is the ULFA fielding some >>> candidates >>> >>> >too, and that too an election managed and mandated by the Chief >>> >>> >Election Commissioner of India. >>> >>> >In the end, the ULFA seems to want to behave like another >>> 'political >>> >>> >party' in India (albeit an extreme one). >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> >On 8/3/05, Chan Mahanta wrote: >>> >>> >> Considering that ULFA does not recognize India's rule over >>> Assam, >>> >>> it >>> >>> >> makes all the sense in the world to them to not allow an >>> occupying >>> >>> >> power to interfere in the elections of its state. Would India >>> >>> allow >>> >>> >> Pakistanis or BDeshis or Americans to come canvass for >>> elections >>> >>> in >>> >>> >> it's territory? >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> The question,at best, demonstrates an absence of ordinary >>> >>> inferential >>> >>> >> skills, no doubt resulting in absurd questions like: >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> > >Or else, guess what will happen? I wonder what kind of >>> >>> >> >a democracy will be there in independent Assam. >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> --- one having little or no connection with the other. >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> At 10:14 PM -0700 8/1/05, Rajib Das wrote: >>> >>> >> >>> >>>>http://www.dailypioneer.com/indexn12.asp?main_variable=front%5Fpage&file_name=story3%2Etxt&counter_img=3?headline=ULFA~diktat:~No~entry~for~'outside'~vote-seekers >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> >Another tactic this time. Not allowing central leaders >>> >>> >> >of national parties to campaign in Assam. >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> >Or else, guess what will happen? I wonder what kind of >>> >>> >> >a democracy will be there in independent Assam. >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> >__________________________________ >>> >>> >> >Yahoo! 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