On 9/18/2007, Marrco ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > So whenever a piece of spam pass undetected your sending your > vacation messages to an innocent person !
There is no such thing as a 'perfect' mail system. Get over it. And they aren't 'my' vacation messages, they are my 'cvlients' vacation messages. > Wow.. that's what I call backscatter. I agree there is room for argument against the whole concept of vacation auto-responders in general (I personally hate them, but when a client insists on having this capability...) - and I even understand if someone considers them 'spam', and you certainly have the right to block them if you want to - but they certainly aren't backscatter in and of themselves, eben if they can result in occasional backscatter when a spam slips through... > Ok, I understand that using ASSP there is no such thing as a piece of > undetected ube, but yours is exactly the kind of configuration > giving me the most troubles in keeping my users mailbox clean when > their addresses are used by spammers. And what you do is sending > unsolicited email. Once a day or once per week, that's not the point. There is no such thing as a 'perfect' mail system. Get over it. > Your logic can be applied to c/r systems too, antivirus notification > or to user validation callouts. I call them backscatter. ? So do I. Backscatter is caused by a legitimate mail server that does not do recipient validation. I most certainly do perform recipient validation on all incoming mail that my server is authoritative for, as should everyone. Any server that doesn't is either a specialty server that is not internet facing, is a relay only server, or is badly mis-configured and part of the spam problem. > And we filter them exactly the same way as other kind of backscatter. If you have a way of effectively eliminating all backscatter, I'm all ears. > Again, I know you're not causing troubles because ASSP keeps you 99% > sure that your vacation notice never go to forged address, that's not > always the case. And if you ever seen a mailbox when a spammer > forges a return address, you know that the most difficult thing to > filter are all the exotic vacation notice (Abwesenheitsnachricht, > Abwesenheitsnotiz, Autorespuesta, automatique d'absence du bureau, > Automatisch antwoord bij afwezigheid, Periodo vacacional, Automatisk > svar ved, ecc.). Some just quote the subject, so you have to inspect > the body to try to understand in Chinese etc what they tell you. So > at least pls use a subject so I can easily filter your email. Most of my clients don't *want* 'legitimate' vacation messages to be blocked. -- Best regards, Charles ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user