Sorry for top post and not cleaning up this email. Damn iPhone. I agree with you entirely. In the USA we have can-spam laws similar. It is simple to adhere to them. Simply put your unsubscribe options and a USPS mailing address in the email and you are mostly safe.
The massive bulk mailers don't care because they are hard to ever track down. This ends up hurting legitimate bulk mailers with clean lists since they are trackable and recipients are quick to forget they subscribed. In the end we waste courts time on issues of little importance. The USA has an anti fax spam law, very strict. I was on a programmer list who sold my address to a third party. I simply hooked a modem up to my computer and checked my mail. This now legally converts my emails into the legal definition of a fax. I filed a small claims suit against the spammer for unsolicited faxes. I served the sender who was very evasive and had a listed business in Florida. US law states the court to be used is the one in which the crime happened. The business owner did not travel from Florida to my state, I went to court and won the maximum judgement in small claims court. I believe 7500.00. Nothing about the courts force payment on the spot, and I won a deafault judgment for a failure to appear on the defendants part. I sent an invoice, and sent a collection agency after them. I still, perhaps 10+ years later have no means of collecting. It's all a nice effort, it all sounds great on the surface, in the end, as you can see, I did nothing but waste my time and make an easily trackable spammer feel more untouchable. -- Scott Iphone says hello. On Jun 17, 2009, at 2:32 AM, "Alex Frunza" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I don't understand how this can work at all. First of all, we all > know the > vast majority of spam is bulk emails offering viagra, > pharmaceuticals and > all that. Spam sent by a company to promote their services is an > entirely > different animal. I don't know how the law can recognize it as spam > even, if > say my company has an e-mail address on a webpage and another > company send > me an e-mail from their webhost/isp's mail server, or their own mail > server > (not some zombie computers) offering office cleaning services which > I don't > want...to me it's spam, but to the law - should it really be? We > don't want > to get to the point where new business contacts from legitimate > companies > become suspicious, blocked or illegal. > > Plus I just don't see how such a law can be enforced, if I pay a > spammer to > advertise my company for instance then it won't go to any IP > registered to > my company and cannot be traced back to me. > > So what is the solution, you ask? My personal opinion, the anti-spam > laws > should be targeted at ISPs and webhosts as it would much easier to > implement > & control! > > Alex. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Melvin [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:34 AM > To: For Users of ASSP > Subject: Re: [Assp-user] Dutch ban all spam e-mails > > Jeroen van Aart wrote: >> I thought some of you might be interested in this. >> >> It must be noted that since the Dutch banned spam to private >> individuals >> the amount of Dutch spam, or spam from Dutch sources, declined >> considerably. Of course this will become more effectived the more >> countries do a similar thing... >> > While I certainly applaud the sentiment, I can't say that the impact > of > the U.S. doing what appears to be roughly the same thing has any > appreciable impact on the problem. I'm sure that there are > substantial > differences in the laws, but then again perhaps there are just more > law > abiding Dutch spammers or fewer Dutch criminals to ignore it. :) > Maybe > a few of our legislators should take a few lessons? Whatever works to > any extent is better than the way it is now I suppose. > > And hopefully the Google translator isn't going to mangle this too > badly. Please forgive any miscue in translation, it was the best I > could do on the spur of the moment. 'Keep up the good work' just > refused to translate. :) > > Houd de goede dingen komen > > Melvin > > > > --- > --- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited > royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing > server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > _______________________________________________ > Assp-user mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user > > > > --- > --- > --- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited > royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing > server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > _______________________________________________ > Assp-user mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects _______________________________________________ Assp-user mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
