Not true. Some do and some don't. Some have a place to plug a separate DC 
adapter, and some have the inline power, where the adapter plugs into the 
ethernet cable. Not sure which ones are newer, and which are older.

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Michael Welter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Sun 3/5/2006 6:50 PM 
        To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
        Cc: 
        Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Polycom 501 power over ethernet
        
        

        The IP501 does not have a power jack.  You'll need one of the Polycom
        cables.
        
        William M Conlon wrote:
        > My recollection of the marketing fluff was that we would just use our
        > legacy network (cables) and the devices at both ends would figure out
        > whether they were sourcing, sinking, or neither.  In the case of the
        > 501, it's the special Polycom cable, either with or without provision
        > for an AC power adapter, that powers the phone.  That's what I meant 
by
        > saying the '501' itself is not compliant with 802.3af -- it needs a
        > separate thingamajig [tech jargon :)]to be powered.
        >
        > Anyway I had hoped that I could just plug a CAT-5 patch cable from my
        > RJ45 wall outlet into the phone.
        >
        > On Mar 5, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Michael Welter wrote:
        >
        >> As I understand 802.3af, the phones go through a negotiation with the
        >> unit supplying the power.  I don't think it's a matter of -48VDC on a
        >> particular pair.  I remember a schematic from years ago--it had each
        >> of the receive pair and the transmit pair going into a transformer
        >> winding,  and that winding had a center tap for PoE.  This is not
        >> something that *I* am going to screw with.
        >>
        >> The IP501 telephone set is the same for both PoE and local power. 
        >> With the PoE cable, the 802.3af electronics (the negotiator) is a
        >> plastic thing in the cable.  For the local power, there is a plastic
        >> thingie toward the wall end of the cable, and you plug the wall wart
        >> into the plastic thingie.  <Notice the advanced technical jargon 
here>
        >>
        >> With local power, there is still only one cable one the desk--the
        >> power plugs into the cable towards the wall.  Except for a power
        >> interruption, this has all the advantages of PoE.
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >> William M Conlon wrote:
        >>> I saw that Polycom offered a cable (not stocked anywhere), at $40 a
        >>> pop for 802.3af connections.  That's what made me think the phone
        >>> itself is NOT 802.3af compliant.
        >>> Presumably, for $40, there's more than a fuse in that special cable.
        >>> On Mar 5, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Paul Hales wrote:
        >>>> For Polycom IP500/501's and IP300/301's you need a special polycom 
POE
        >>>> cable.
        >>>>
        >>>> When you buy Polycom phones you can usually specify POE or 
powerpack.
        >>>>
        >>>> PaulH
        >>>>
        >>>> On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 16:23 -0800, William M Conlon wrote:
        >>>>> When I bought two Polycom 501 SIP phones, I naively thought they 
were
        >>>>> Power-over-Ethernet (IEEE 802.3af) because they were "powered over
        >>>>> ethernet."  Silly me.
        >>>>>
        >>>>> Polycom must have some odd voltage or funny way of injecting the
        >>>>> power, because the POE switch I bought for them (Netgear [EMAIL 
PROTECTED])
        >>>>> won't power them, though if I use the Polycom-supplied AC adapter 
and
        >>>>> ethernet power injector cable, they work with the switch in either
        >>>>> its powered or unpowered ports.
        >>>>>
        >>>>> Anyhow, I hadn't seen any mention of how people power these 
phones,
        >>>>> as I had planned on centralizing phone power on a UPS to supply my
        >>>>> Asterisk server and POE switch.  Now the question is:
        >>>>>
        >>>>> Can the Polycom AC-powered injector be used with a standard 
ethernet
        >>>>> patch cable:
        >>>>>
        >>>>>     switch :: Polycom injector cable :: RJ45 coupler :: patch 
cable ::
        >>>>> Polycom 501
        >>>>>
        >>>>> which would allow me to power the Polycom AC adapters by my UPS.  
Or
        >>>>> do I need to provide a UPS at each phone and run the ethernet like
        >>>>>
        >>>>>     switch :: patch cable :: RJ45 coupler :: Polycom injector 
cable ::
        >>>>> Polycom 501
        >>>>>
        >>>>> thanks.
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        >> --Michael Welter
        >> Telecom Matters Corp.
        >> Denver, Colorado US
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        > Bill
        >
        > William M. Conlon, P.E., Ph.D.
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