Thanks again. Since the bandwidth requirement raised in this case it seems that the requirement would be for Fiber. I think that is what everyone is referring as Metro LAN, Metro Switch, Switch Ethernet...... Can someone please recommend companies that do Fiber point-to-point. Connecting Mississauga to 151 Front Street W. Thanks,Bruce
> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 19:28:13 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Can I get Point to Point copper OR similar > work-around > > Most local loops are own by Bell and then Bell wholesale them to CLEC. Bell > charge CLEC for circuit and CLEC charge end customers for service and > traffic > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Bruce N <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the great feedback Andrew, Patrick, and James. > > > > > > So, now my understanding is that it's hard or impossible to get > > point-to-point copper pair (dry loop) and even if possible a 10Mbps can't be > > pushed through it with any economical technology. > > > > > > Unfortunately there is no line of sight at all. Probably Metro Ethernet is > > going to be the choice. However, I wonder how that is delivered anyhow when > > All Stream does it (called SwitchE) - Don't they also use Bells copper wire > > to do this? > > > > > > I have two more questions though: > > 1- What about companies like TekSavvy? I understand they purchase DSLAM > > space in most COs? > > 2- I am looking through Bell's CRTC tariffs and hard to pin point the > > start-up costs for obtaining DLSAM service etc... > > > > > > Can someone with knowledge please shed some light. > > > > > > Thanks again, > > Bruce > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Bruce > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 16:20:00 -0400 > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Can I get Point to Point copper OR similar > > work-around > > > > > > Bruce N wrote: > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > Can a dry loop be ordered for point to point access. Let's say between > > North York and Down Town Toronto? Aim is to create a private network or heck > > even take advantage of the fast internet service available at 151 Front > > Street. > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that there are limitations to DSL technology with distance > > but won't the repeaters in between solve that issue? > > > > > > > > > > > > Furthermore, by this request am I looking into something like DSLAM > > hire from Bell facility? If so, can you guide to CRTC approved tariffs for > > it? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a bunch, > > > > Bruce > > > > > > > Not likely. You can at best get a pair to your central office. Years > > > ago, copper pairs were commonly used for DS1 (T1) circuits at 1.544 Mb/s > > > (1.536 usable) and they needed repeaters about every 6000' IIRC. If you > > > want to go faster than that, you'd need fibre and you'd also be talking > > > about lots of money. If you have line of site, you can set up a short > > > haul microwave link. These are available in both licenced and > > > unlicenced bands. The greatest distance I've covered on short haul > > > microwave is from American Dr. & Viscount Rd., in Malton to West Drive & > > > Clark Blvd. in Brampton with a licenced system, but the equipment used > > > was capable of about 40 Km. Again, you're talking a lot of money. > > > Unlicenced systems can be cheaper, but also have much shorter range. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > -- > Thank you > > Patrick Song > > CCIE #28023, CCVP > M.Eng in Telecommunications > Cell:1-647-868-2950
