Correct, but those are only present in the C7 and later C3's, not the 
original C3 Samuel processor.  So I stand by my earlier comment that 
users of the VIA C3 (prior to Nehemiah) lose nothing by using the 
generic i586 image.

Darrick

Philip A. Prindeville wrote:
> The cache-line flush size and the presence of CMOV are also useful
> considerations.
> 
> The presence of the 8 MTRR's is significant... though probably less so
> in our application.
> 
> -Philip
> 
> Kerem Erciyes wrote:
>> I think Padlock support counts if you are trying to run OpenVPN or IPSEC.
>> I have always run generic-pc type images on C3/C7 processors without
>> any problem.
>> (astlinux, m0n0wall, freenas, etc...)
>>
>> This is the C7 I tested the build with, it has SSE3 and RNG/ACE as
>> most important differences.
>> I also tested with a C3-2.
>>
>> processor    : 0
>> vendor_id    : CentaurHauls
>> cpu family   : 6
>> model                : 10
>> model name   : VIA Esther processor 1000MHz
>> stepping     : 9
>> cpu MHz              : 999.990
>> cache size   : 128 KB
>> fdiv_bug     : no
>> hlt_bug              : no
>> f00f_bug     : no
>> coma_bug     : no
>> fpu          : yes
>> fpu_exception        : yes
>> cpuid level  : 1
>> wp           : yes
>> flags                : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce apic sep mtrr pge cmov 
>> pat
>> clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni est rng rng_en ace ace_en ace2
>> ace2_en phe phe_en pmm pmm_en
>> bogomips     : 2000.67
>> clflush size : 64
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Darrick Hartman
>> <dhart...@djhsolutions.com> wrote:
>>   
>>> Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Looks like I've got a straight C3 on this machine:
>>>>
>>>> processor     : 0
>>>> vendor_id     : CentaurHauls
>>>> cpu family    : 6
>>>> model         : 7
>>>> model name    : VIA Samuel 2
>>>> stepping      : 3
>>>> cpu MHz               : 532.657
>>>> cache size    : 64 KB
>>>> fdiv_bug      : no
>>>> hlt_bug               : no
>>>> f00f_bug      : no
>>>> coma_bug      : no
>>>> fpu           : yes
>>>> fpu_exception : yes
>>>> cpuid level   : 1
>>>> wp            : yes
>>>> flags         : fpu de tsc msr cx8 mtrr pge mmx 3dnow
>>>> bogomips      : 1066.16
>>>> clflush size  : 32
>>>>
>>>> It seems unlikely this is causing my current issue but I would be
>>>> interested to see what it would take to make a C3 image.  Also, I'm
>>>> not sure I like the idea of three different sets of optimizations for
>>>> different Via cores...
>>>>       
>>> The original VIA C3's gain nothing really over the generic image.  They
>>> lack padlock support so I think we say C3 is really for Nehamiah and
>>> newer and C7 is for well C7 processors.  Older processors should use the
>>> generic image.
>>>
>>> Darrick
>>>
>

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