I think we're in violent agreement then. Since we have a rich set of modules (and can enable any we overlook but get a call for), there is really no downside to running the i586 images on the less specialized Via processors.
Let's only roll custom images for the hardware for which we can unlock specific functionality. -Philip Darrick Hartman wrote: > Correct, but those are only present in the C7 and later C3's, not the > original C3 Samuel processor. So I stand by my earlier comment that > users of the VIA C3 (prior to Nehemiah) lose nothing by using the > generic i586 image. > > Darrick > > Philip A. Prindeville wrote: > >> The cache-line flush size and the presence of CMOV are also useful >> considerations. >> >> The presence of the 8 MTRR's is significant... though probably less so >> in our application. >> >> -Philip >> >> Kerem Erciyes wrote: >> >>> I think Padlock support counts if you are trying to run OpenVPN or IPSEC. >>> I have always run generic-pc type images on C3/C7 processors without >>> any problem. >>> (astlinux, m0n0wall, freenas, etc...) >>> >>> This is the C7 I tested the build with, it has SSE3 and RNG/ACE as >>> most important differences. >>> I also tested with a C3-2. >>> >>> processor : 0 >>> vendor_id : CentaurHauls >>> cpu family : 6 >>> model : 10 >>> model name : VIA Esther processor 1000MHz >>> stepping : 9 >>> cpu MHz : 999.990 >>> cache size : 128 KB >>> fdiv_bug : no >>> hlt_bug : no >>> f00f_bug : no >>> coma_bug : no >>> fpu : yes >>> fpu_exception : yes >>> cpuid level : 1 >>> wp : yes >>> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce apic sep mtrr pge cmov >>> pat >>> clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni est rng rng_en ace ace_en ace2 >>> ace2_en phe phe_en pmm pmm_en >>> bogomips : 2000.67 >>> clflush size : 64 >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Darrick Hartman >>> <dhart...@djhsolutions.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Kristian Kielhofner wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Looks like I've got a straight C3 on this machine: >>>>> >>>>> processor : 0 >>>>> vendor_id : CentaurHauls >>>>> cpu family : 6 >>>>> model : 7 >>>>> model name : VIA Samuel 2 >>>>> stepping : 3 >>>>> cpu MHz : 532.657 >>>>> cache size : 64 KB >>>>> fdiv_bug : no >>>>> hlt_bug : no >>>>> f00f_bug : no >>>>> coma_bug : no >>>>> fpu : yes >>>>> fpu_exception : yes >>>>> cpuid level : 1 >>>>> wp : yes >>>>> flags : fpu de tsc msr cx8 mtrr pge mmx 3dnow >>>>> bogomips : 1066.16 >>>>> clflush size : 32 >>>>> >>>>> It seems unlikely this is causing my current issue but I would be >>>>> interested to see what it would take to make a C3 image. Also, I'm >>>>> not sure I like the idea of three different sets of optimizations for >>>>> different Via cores... >>>>> >>>>> >>>> The original VIA C3's gain nothing really over the generic image. They >>>> lack padlock support so I think we say C3 is really for Nehamiah and >>>> newer and C7 is for well C7 processors. Older processors should use the >>>> generic image. >>>> >>>> Darrick >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H _______________________________________________ Astlinux-users mailing list Astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to pay...@krisk.org.
