On Fri 01 Nov 2013 11:35:06 PM GMT, Nick Kossifidis wrote:
> On Fri 01 Nov 2013 11:34:35 PM GMT, Nick Kossifidis wrote:
>> On Fri 01 Nov 2013 06:12:42 PM GMT, David Goodenough wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 30 Oct 2013, Beat Meier wrote:
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> I have a lot of wireless repeaters which uses madwifi. Because of
>>>> several problem like not anymore supported and
>>>> other problems like "no xmit buf" I need to upgrade to mac80211 with ath5k.
>>>> What I notice is that in the b band the ath5k driver has about 10dbm
>>>> less than madwifi driver and a band too.
>>>> It's not the noise it have really 10db difference. Nobody having this
>>>> problem with long distance links?
>>>> This is with Compex cards, CM9 ...
>>>> Because of this I have bad througput (signal of -80) instead of -70 with
>>>> madwifi and good througput.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas what could be wrong and how to debug the issue???
>>>>
>>>> Greetings
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>>> I seem to recall that there was a kludge in madwifi that added 10dB to
>>> the real power so that high power cards could be set to their real power
>>> limit rather than the FCC/ETSI limited power levels.  Ath5k as I recall
>>> does not do this as it is integrated into the crda data.
>>>
>>> Or was it the other way around, i.e. now that crda was in force with ath5k
>>> you had to lie about the power level?
>>>
>>> Either way, I do seem to recall that the difference was 10dB.
>>>
>>> David
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>>
>> a) 10dB difference is too much to be a driver bug, CM9s are tested and
>> at least the one I used to have operated as it should, I don't know
>> which version of MadWiFi you have or how you measure the power
>> difference. Last time I checked with a R&S spectrum analyzer tx power
>> setting was O.K. (well at least as good as MadWiFi let's say), most
>> probably something is going on with CRDA or some layer above the driver.
>>
>> b) 40MHz channels are messing up the spectrum AND in the case of the
>> Atheros 5k cards, when used you get even less tx power. There is a
>> 20MHz turbo mode that's better. Driver supports all possible bw modes
>> (5,10,20,40MHz) but there is no standard way to set them. Here is a
>> patch that enables a debugfs file to do this ->
>> https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/trunk/package/mac80211/patches/440-ath5k_channel_bw_debugfs.patch?rev=32595
>> it never went upstream though, there are lots of people (and some
>> projects out there) that successfully use bw modes.
>>
>> For reference here are some screenshots from an AR5413 card I used,
>> from the R&S spectrum analyzer from 2010, when bw modes were added to
>> ath5k.
>
> Sorry forgot the link...
> http://archlinux.mirrors.ovh.net/ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/mickflemm/ath5k-bwmodes/

Anyway if you want better speed please don't go for the "hackish" 40MHz 
mode, the spectrum is something we should all care about ! Use 11n in 
20MHz mode, you'll get much better results even with a single chain.
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