Hey Thomas, I admire you very much but I beg to differ... Basically we're giving the right for a private company to do whatever they see fit with our hard labor, including using it in a paid software or sell our contributions to any company or service that they want to, under any license. (Including closed source licenses) It goes against everything I have in mind when it comes to FOSS. I might sound a little utopian here but I work in foss softwares because I truly believe in their principles. And that's the same company that tried a couple weeks ago to sell user's data to Yandex and Google. The presented CLA gives them all the rights perpetually and leaves us with nothing: no guarantees, no boundaries, no rights. It can't be a good agreement when one part gives it all and receives nothing.
Cleber Em qua, 2 de jun de 2021 05:22, Thomas De Rocker <[email protected]> escreveu: > Hi > > Is it really that big of a deal? The way I understand, it's only to > prevent any legal issues in the future, no? > > *[...] This license is not only for the **protection of the contributors** > themselves, but also for the **protection of the project and its users**; > it does **not change your rights to use your own Contributions for any > other purpose** [...]* > > *The license agreement is a legal document in which you state you are > entitled to contribute the code to Audacity and are willing to have it used > in distributions and derivative works. This means that should there be any > kind of legal issue in the future as to the origins and ownership of any > particular piece of code, Audacity has the necessary forms on file from the > contributor(s) saying they were permitted to make this contribution.* > > *The CLA also ensures that once you have provided a contribution, you **cannot > try to withdraw permission for its use at a later date**. People and > companies can therefore use Audacity, confident that they will not be asked > to **stop using pieces of the code at a later date**.* > > *Being able to make a clear statement about the origins of the code is > very important as Audacity is adopted by large organizations who are > necessarily cautious about adopting products with unknown origins. We wish > for Audacity to be used and distributed as widely as possible and in order > to do this with confidence, we need to be sure about the origins and > continuing existence of the code.* > > *Can I withdraw permission to use my contributions at a later date?* > > *No. This is one of the reasons Audacity requires a CLA. No **individual > contributor can hold such a threat **over the entire community of users. > Once you make a contribution, you are saying MUSECY SM LTD (an affiliate of > MuseScore and Ultimate Guitar) can use that piece of code forever.* > > Full version here: https://www.audacityteam.org/cla/ > > > Please don't make any rash decisions... Forking the project and thereby > splitting the Audacity community could have bad consequences (I'm thinking > about OpenOffice vs LibreOffice). > Please... try to *communicate* first, asking *why* decisions are made, to > prevent jumping to conclusions. > > I sincerely hope we can continue to put our energy and time in the *same > project*. > > Regards > > Thomas > > > > > ------------------------------ > *Van:* Martin Srebotnjak <[email protected]> > *Verzonden:* woensdag 2 juni 2021 9:00 > *Aan:* [email protected] < > [email protected]> > *Onderwerp:* Re: [Audacity-translation] CONTRIBUTOR LICENSE AGREEMENT - > time to fork? > > Helo, > > I totally agree with you. Let's fork. > > Lp, m. > > V V sre., 2. jun. 2021 ob 08:10 je oseba Cleber Tavano < > [email protected]> napisala: > > Hello everybody, > > Again, I learned from the press that Audacity is changing everything in > licensing and "forgot" to let us know why or what they're doing. > Now we're asked to give in all our contributions under a murky and > uncertainly-worded license agreement that will grant Muse the right to do > whatever they want for good. > > I contribute to this software since the very beginning and I'm proud that > Audacity is such an important tool used in schools around my country and > that my translations made it happen. > But I'm NOT an employee of Muse and I'll never be. I refuse to sign a CLA > giving to these guys completely and perpetual rights over my work, > including even taking my contributions and change how it's licensed. > I had agreed to work under the gpl license, not to give in my rights for > an "agreement" that can't even be clear about how it will be used. > If I wanted to get my work used in a proprietary software, I wouldn't > commit it in a GPLed project. > > Unless you people at Muse come with something completely different from > the terms of the proposed agreement, I'll kindly ask you to retreat my > contributions because I won't agree with this draconian license. > > First the telemetry, now this. > > I can't help but think that IT'S TIME TO FORK AUDACITY and let Muse do > whatever they want to the code they can prove is theirs. > > Cleber > PT_br translator > > > > _______________________________________________ > Audacity-translation mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-translation > > _______________________________________________ > Audacity-translation mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-translation >
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