Re: HoneyGain - Make Money out of Your Own Internet!
Alright, if you seriously want the meat and potatos please read this post. This is going to be a long one and I'm going to showcase what research I've done concerning this company, as I go along, given the put your money where your mouth is challenge... I have no money, by the way. First, however, lets get this little bit out of the way...
@Kenshira, your analogy is super inaccurate given 2 reasons:
1. Research has already been done on the issues concerning smoking, the health risks it poses and how it affects people in the short-term, the long-term, etc etc.
2. It's not as simple as you say; providing a stress reliever that is safer, such as working out, playing a game in moderation or otherwise occupying your time with something productive and or creative requires many things be aligned properly, from the need and will to possibly change behaviors to the resources required to get those things done. You could tell someone to quit smoking and start a business, but unless they have the resources to start said business they will fail at it. You could tell them to hit the track when the urge strikes, but unless they want to and are able to they won't do it. More to the point though? Unless you are in their shoes, you won't know if what you're doing might feel like you're passing down judgment or simply trying to change them to fit your mold and remake them in your image, which is something no one should want to do.
Here though, the issue is different in that people are willingly and possibly woefully clicking on links offered up by members who may or may not have reputable standings in other areas; the name storm productions is suggestive of a game developer, but what do I know. Supposing it had been me who had written up this post and topic with what everyone publicly knows about me, I think it would have been questioned much, much less. I would have taken the time to scope it out, post links to what research I have done and what results I've generated rather than vaguely saying, here's a cool sounding site and it looks promising so you should go check it out and by the way you're helping me out if you do.
Put another way, I could point you to many sites which offer legitimate work options, but some of them require experience, proof of said experience, and a pair of functional eyeballs. some of them require degrees while others require minimal certifications. Some require that you've at the very least obtained a highschool education. Some require you to speak or write exceptional english. some require all of the above and then some. None of them, will give you free money.
So, to burst the bubble people seem to have, there is no such thing as free money. If it's coming in, someone had to make it somewhere, and if you're getting it you really should, at the very least, be concerned about how you're getting it and why. This idea that you can get something for nothing shows its face on so many levels on this forum, from the want to distribute cracked software to illegal download links to TV streams that you should be paying for and so on. If you show me that the people who are in favor of this aren't just in favor of obtaining money they otherwise wouldn't work for, you know, actually put effort into gaining and have the skills, resources and experience required to get said jobs done, then they really don't need me to pull up a list of links because they more than likely wouldn't be browsing this site looking for said jobs. That having been said? I'm willing to post links all the same, so if you can prove to me that everyone who's actually in favor of this scam isn't just out for the free money and would put in the effort? If you can substanciate your own claims that the smoke addicts want to let go and are willing to put in the efort without me having to drag them to a rehab center? go right ahead and I'll post the links. Until then, no linkage to actual jobs and no dragging anyone to anywhere against their will. What you will not see me do is post links to so-called free money; it does not exist.
And now for the research.
Honeygain, in the spirit of many so-called free-money making apps and services does the following things predictably.
1. It promises more rewards for more usage.
2. It promises more rewards if you can bring in more users.
3. They promise your data is safe with them.
Here are my problems with it.
1. I decided to visit the site to see what kind of information I could ascertain from the site alone. Upon visiting the site I was told that cookies were being used to track my progress through said site and that at least some of those cookies were absolutely necessary. What information are those cookies sending, and to whom? Much like the information collected by the app which is vague at best, at present, I really don't know.
2. The site has many instances of broken English. While this in and of itself does not have to be a deterrent, it is given that the company is already somewhat enigmatic about who owns it, who works for it, and what information any are using. If a team of dedicated and educated scientists are looking to mine valuable information could they not take time to write up a better site to at least make it read as something more presentable? And I quote, "Honeygain's network is used by businesses clients for web intelligence and content delivery" no period at the end of that sentence, and businesses clients should seriously be business clients. Another example? "You help businesses that you're surrounded to create a better future for everyone." Surrounded by, anyone? Or perhaps the real wording should be altogether different? Who are these businesses I'm supposedly surrounded by? What are their names? Have any notable figures from said businesses contributed an honorable word toward this site? for further corrosive writing and why I would not take this thing seriously, please, please check out that frontpage and do not just go clicking on referral links!
3. Still not impressed? Fine, lets keep going, since you're still reading. Have you actually looked at how much you're personally making with your app? Would you willingly post that information here so we can do some further calculations? One source claims they've run the app for four hours and only made four cents. There are 24 hours in a day. If this person's claim is true they're only making one cent per hour in a 24 hour day. 24*30 for the number of days in a month equates to 720, or 7 dollars and 20 cents a month. Surprise surprise, you won't be getting your 20 dollars payout next month unless, unless you run 3 devices, and they must all be on separate networks for best results.
4. Still reading? Excellent, because here's all the info you should really need to make an informative decision.
Domain:
honeygain.com
Registrar:
GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registered On:
2019-04-04
Expires On:
2025-04-04
Updated On:
2019-12-02
Status:
clientDeleteProhibited
clientRenewProhibited
clientTransferProhibited
clientUpdateProhibited
Name Servers:
rose.ns.cloudflare.com
will.ns.cloudflare.com
Registrant Contact
Name:
Registration Private
Organization:
Domains By Proxy, LLC
Street:
DomainsByProxy.com
14455 N. Hayden Road
City:
Scottsdale
State:
Arizona
Postal Code:
85260
Country:
US
Phone:
+1.4806242599
Fax:
+1.4806242598
Email:
em...@domainsbyproxy.com
I could keep pasting, but that information is pretty consistent and just as vague all the way down that page. Ip address is 104.26.12.56. INterestingly enough, that IP address is also associated with 9 other sites including one that offers cheap condoms, another that advertises the Communist Party of India, another that seems to be geared toward fashion sales in the EU, and at least 2 other sites that I can't figure out for the life of me. This information does raise more questions than it answers though:
1. Why does a team or organization dedicated to helping out diligent scientists all around the world have a cloudflare account rather than something akin to a dedicated server? It'd be like if I said I was hosting a global political meeting and then all these bigwigs went and hung out on a TT server on a linode.
2. Why is so much of the company's registration info private if it is a reputable company doing business with other reputable companies?
3. Why do they write up blog posts like this one, where the only information they link to leads to other posts and or pages of their site rather than showcasing the impact they've actually had on communities or around the world, given they are a reputable company helping out science?
right, you want the facts? I've spelled them out as best I could. You won't find a single legitimate scam checker that flags this thing down as a scam. Using @Kenshira's logic, that makes it ok, because smoking is not technically illegal in most places and so go get yourself a pack of camel or whatever. Here's the thing though; it really might hurt you. Until you know for sure what that data they're accessing and using and piggybacking off of you is actually being used for, you may as well just assume that someone has managed to snag it to steal bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies, downloaded illegal content, hit other legitimate websites with dDoS attacks, or any other myriad of things that could get you into trouble if your internet service provider decides to look the other way when you say that you were just downloading an app that told you it was ok. Use common sense! We're spelling it out for you! You don't have to breathe in cancerous smoke, and you don't have to take it on the word of a mysterious company that you're going to get paid out just because they say so. You can do it; we won't try to stop you any further, but you can't say you weren't warned.
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