magiccarpetride;612879 Wrote: > But the problem is I occasionally hear differences when blind even if > everything else remains the same. Besides, there is no way that we can > reliably measure the exact scope, quality and quantity of the sound > waves arriving at one's ears. > > Pretending that we already know all there is to know about the > phenomenon of experiencing music is extremely foolish. In addition to > that, pretending that it is possible to achieve consistency when > testing component blindly is another superstitious pile of baloney.
But whe can reliably measure electrical signals, you only need to to do that. " the phenomen of experiencing music" does not need to be involved. You only have to detect if there is a difference not try to measure " musical quality ". It's even more impossible to test thing's unblinded. You can not solve the problems of blind testing by reintroducing the much much bigger problems it solved. Blind testing itself does not solve the problem of unrilable human perception, it the statistical methods used after the test. You can think like this , it quite possible that for some stimuli a bunch of people can be intirely correct about something, but you cant " know " that. To " know " you have To subjekt them or a similar group to a test for example giving them the placebo medicine or what ever, oops it starts to look like blind test. It's not about rigth and wrong it's about knowing or not knowing. Without quantifiable test you never know you can have loads of very plausible hypothesises but you don't know. Next hurdle is to blind the tester himself the" double blind" this hard to do, some researchers relly want their favorite theory to be rigth and thus twarts the experiments not deliberatly, but these things tend to be self fullfilling, so errors does not always emerge from the testsubjekts. It is superstituos baloney that blind testing does not work, often spread by people whos " religion " is in perill regarding shakti stones fancy cables and cones and other nonsense -- Mnyb -------------------------------------------------------------------- Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
