tcutting <tcutting.7fv...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com> writes:

> Your Yamaha amp should already be optimized for a standard "line" level
> which the Touch provides (use one of the "TAPE" or "AUX" inputs, NOT the
> PHONO!).

Sorry - I don't use a touch. I use a p;i with an external USB DAC,
headphone out. And the input is AUX. 

> I would say don't add anything between the Touch and your 720.
> I would use the 720's volume control to get the best setting - use the
> technique mlsstl described - set the Touch to max output, play a song
> which is in the "softer" range, and set the volume control on your
> Yamaha to as loud as you think you'd ever want for that listening area. 
> After that, go ahead and use the Touch's "digital" volume control for
> your day-to-day volume changes.

OK - this is about what I have done and I am using iPeng for volume control.


> I would leave your "mute" button OFF, and then it can be handy for
> it's intended purpose - to easily mute or lower the volume for a brief
> period (e.g., answering the phone).

No need for that. But I might switch it off again.

Thanks,

Rainer

>
> rkrug wrote: 
>> Mnyb <Mnyb.7fuktz (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> writes:
>> 
>> > What mlsstl describe is an attempt to get a good "gain structure" or
>> > gain staging .
>> >
>> > Sources can have to high output level and most likely both amps and
>> > preamps can have to much gain .
>> >
>> > If your always use the bottom half of you volume control your system
>> has
>> > to much gain somewhere .
>> > And subsequently you amplify input noise and stuff , probably at
>> every
>> > stage , at the preamp and then the power amp .
>> 
>> Thanks - I learned something only by listening in.
>> 
>> I have a Yamaha !-720
>> (http://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/yamaha/a-720.shtml)
>> integrated
>> amplifier which I am only using at less than a third of the volume
>> control with my Monitor Audio Bronze speakers
>> (http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649109800-monitor_audio_bronze_3_speakers/images/702957/).
>> 
>> But the amplifier has a Muting button which reduces the volume output
>> so
>> that I have to set the volume to the upper half. So I should use this
>> than? I'll try it out
>> 
>> Rainer
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> > This board amp TPA3116 ? Does it have any built in gain adaption ? If
>> > not you can build your own L-pads ( a couple of resistors per channel
>> )
>> > or buy passive attenuators to put on the rca inputs to lower the gain
>> by
>> > -10dB for example ? Then you can happily use the Touchs own volume .
>> > Fixed attenuators or L-pads can be built with very good precision
>> > compared to a potentiometer , as it just a bunch of low power
>> resistor
>> > it cost peanuts to buy very hig precision ones .
>> >
>> > ( OT , best case would be if the stuff had actuall gain adjustment or
>> > proper gain to begin with , attenuation solve a large chunk of the
>> > problem , but amps still amplify itsp's self generated noise at its
>> own
>> > input , there is not only SN-ratio stuff have absolute noise levels to
>> )
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
>> > Misc use: Radio (with battery)
>> > iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad
>> > (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller )
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