CASA doesn't have any money that isn't obtained from user fees and a small amount from consolidated revenue. If CASA pays WE pay.

Mike


At 08:54 AM 3/30/2017, you wrote:
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As CASA is the party requiring them, CASA should pay!

Regards,

Roger Browne

From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of Colin Collum
Sent: Thursday, 30 March 2017 9:17 AM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] CASA Avmed discussion - due Thursday 30 March


Strictly speaking the tests involved in aviation medicals are screening rather than diagnostic and as such should not be billed to the health system but paid for directly by the recipient.

Regards,

Colin

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From: Aus-soaring <<mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au>aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au> on behalf of Jo Pocklington <<mailto:jopockling...@bigpond.com>jopockling...@bigpond.com>
Sent: 29 March 2017 16:15:35
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] CASA Avmed discussion - due Thursday 30 March

Not only the RAMPC, AvMed creates an impost on the Australian health system with unnecessary tests in relation to Class 2 applications. Former CASA Director of Aviation Medicine, from 1988 to 1997, Dr Robert Liddell stated in his Aviation Safety Regulation Review Submission (Feb 2014) that: "... When their DAME and their specialist believe they meet the risk target for certification without endless further testing demanded by CASA and the advice of their own specialist is ignored by the regulator then pilots lose confidence in the regulator...". Regards Jo

From: Aus-soaring [<mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au>mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of Greg Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2017 3:58 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] CASA Avmed discussion - due Thursday 30 March

For those of you wishing to email your AVMED discussion response to the minister, his email address is

Darren Chester MP<<mailto:darren.chester...@aph.gov.au>darren.chester...@aph.gov.au>

You may also like to ask the transport minister to ask the Health Minister (Hon Greg Hunt MP – Minister for Health and Minister for Sport) about the impact on testing for the onerous RAMPC on medical GPs.

Cheers,

Greg Wilson


---- On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 22:30:37 +1100 Noel Roediger <<mailto:roedi...@internode.on.net>roedi...@internode.on.net> wrote ----
Dear Jo.

Sincere thanks from me – and I’m sure from all others re your advice on the AVMed issue.

I’ve prepared a loaded response that will put a bee up their bum but won’t send until Bev wakes and vetts it tomorrow and then I’ll copy to this site.

Can you fwd. your private email address please so we can communicate off site.

Love

Noel.

From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of Jo Pocklington
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 6:20 PM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] CASA Avmed discussion - due Thursday 30 March

You could simply say something like "the AOPA proposal dated 23 August 2016 regarding Class 2 Medical reform is supported by me" – regards Jo

From: Aus-soaring [<mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au>mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of Peter Champness
Sent: Monday, 27 March 2017 6:17 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] CASA Avmed discussion - due Thursday 30 March

Thanks,

Is there a generic reply which I could copy?

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Jo Pocklington <<mailto:jopockling...@bigpond.com>jopockling...@bigpond.com> wrote:

Hi Mike, deadline is Thursday 30 March. SAAA & RA-Aus submissions are not yet available. AOPA put forward a proposal on 23 August 2016 (attached), which many are supporting.

GFA tug pilots could be affected. Even though they can operate on an RAMPC, RAMPC requires fulfilling unconditional private driver licence requirements + a visit to a Doctor + filling in a medical history form + only being eligible in the absence of certain conditions - although these conditions do not preclude an unconditional driver's licence. There are 53+ disqualifying conditions for an RAMPC including a cancer in the last 5 years, angina, coronary bypass surgery, ECG changes, insulin treated diabetes, sleep apnoea... RAMPC is therefore more restrictive than a Class 2 Medical, eg a healthy private pilot with a recent history of prostate cancer is ineligible to obtain a RAMPC, but that pilot is unlikely to have difficulty obtaining a Class 2 Medical Certificate.

Submissions to <mailto:avmed...@casa.gov.au>avmed...@casa.gov.au and should include in the subject line: 'AvMed discussion paper' - regards Jo

From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt
Sent: Monday, 27 March 2017 3:00 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] CASA Avmed discussion paper

OK how many have put in a submission to CASA Avmed re the current discussion paper? You have until 31st March.(the end of this week).

If you don't, there is a possibility you will be required to have a RAMPC to fly gliders. You can go to <http://recreationalflying.com>recreationalflying.com to see the trouble that causes because if you can't get one for a number of relatively trivial reasons you will be up for a Class 2 medical with a DAME.

If you don't put in a submission, preferably in strong support of the AOPA proposal which has been linked to here a while ago you get to lose all bitching rights and sympathy when CASA AvMed screws you over.

Don't expect GFA to do anything sensible, do it yourself.

Mike
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