They are. - mark
On 30 Mar 2017, at 9:16 AM, Colin Collum <crcol...@melbpc.org.au> wrote: > > Strictly speaking the tests involved in aviation medicals are screening > rather than diagnostic and as such should not be billed to the health system > but paid for directly by the recipient. > Regards, > Colin > From: Aus-soaring <aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au> on behalf of Jo > Pocklington <jopockling...@bigpond.com> > Sent: 29 March 2017 16:15:35 > To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] CASA Avmed discussion - due Thursday 30 March > > Not only the RAMPC, AvMed creates an impost on the Australian health system > with unnecessary tests in relation to Class 2 applications. Former CASA > Director of Aviation Medicine, from 1988 to 1997, Dr Robert Liddell stated in > his Aviation Safety Regulation Review Submission (Feb 2014) that: "... When > their DAME and their specialist believe they meet the risk target for > certification without endless further testing demanded by CASA and the advice > of their own specialist is ignored by the regulator then pilots lose > confidence in the regulator...". Regards Jo > <> > From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf > Of Greg Wilson > Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2017 3:58 PM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] CASA Avmed discussion - due Thursday 30 March > > For those of you wishing to email your AVMED discussion response to the > minister, his email address is > > Darren Chester MP<darren.chester...@aph.gov.au > <mailto:darren.chester...@aph.gov.au>> > > You may also like to ask the transport minister to ask the Health Minister > (Hon Greg Hunt MP – Minister for Health and Minister for Sport) about the > impact on testing for the onerous RAMPC on medical GPs. > > Cheers, > > Greg Wilson > > > > > ---- On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 22:30:37 +1100 Noel Roediger > <roedi...@internode.on.net <mailto:roedi...@internode.on.net>> wrote ---- > Dear Jo. > > Sincere thanks from me – and I’m sure from all others re your advice on the > AVMed issue. > > I’ve prepared a loaded response that will put a bee up their bum but won’t > send until Bev wakes and vetts it tomorrow and then I’ll copy to this site. > > Can you fwd. your private email address please so we can communicate off site. > > Love > > Noel. > > From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au > <mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au>] On Behalf Of Jo Pocklington > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 6:20 PM > To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] CASA Avmed discussion - due Thursday 30 March > > You could simply say something like "the AOPA proposal dated 23 August 2016 > regarding Class 2 Medical reform is supported by me" – regards Jo > > From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au > <mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au>] On Behalf Of Peter Champness > Sent: Monday, 27 March 2017 6:17 PM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] CASA Avmed discussion - due Thursday 30 March > > Thanks, > > Is there a generic reply which I could copy? > > On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Jo Pocklington <jopockling...@bigpond.com > <mailto:jopockling...@bigpond.com>> wrote: > Hi Mike, deadline is Thursday 30 March. SAAA & RA-Aus submissions are not > yet available. AOPA put forward a proposal on 23 August 2016 (attached), > which many are supporting. > GFA tug pilots could be affected. Even though they can operate on an RAMPC, > RAMPC requires fulfilling unconditional private driver licence requirements + > a visit to a Doctor + filling in a medical history form + only being eligible > in the absence of certain conditions - although these conditions do not > preclude an unconditional driver's licence. There are 53+ disqualifying > conditions for an RAMPC including a cancer in the last 5 years, angina, > coronary bypass surgery, ECG changes, insulin treated diabetes, sleep > apnoea... RAMPC is therefore more restrictive than a Class 2 Medical, eg a > healthy private pilot with a recent history of prostate cancer is ineligible > to obtain a RAMPC, but that pilot is unlikely to have difficulty obtaining a > Class 2 Medical Certificate. > Submissions to avmed...@casa.gov.au <mailto:avmed...@casa.gov.au> and should > include in the subject line: 'AvMed discussion paper' - regards Jo > <> > From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au > <mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au>] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt > Sent: Monday, 27 March 2017 3:00 PM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] CASA Avmed discussion paper > > OK how many have put in a submission to CASA Avmed re the current discussion > paper? You have until 31st March.(the end of this week). > > If you don't, there is a possibility you will be required to have a RAMPC to > fly gliders. You can go torecreationalflying.com > <http://recreationalflying.com/> to see the trouble that causes because if > you can't get one for a number of relatively trivial reasons you will be up > for a Class 2 medical with a DAME. > > If you don't put in a submission, preferably in strong support of the AOPA > proposal which has been linked to here a while ago you get to lose all > bitching rights and sympathy when CASA AvMed screws you over. > > Don't expect GFA to do anything sensible, do it yourself. > > Mike > Borgelt Instruments - design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation > since 1978 > www.borgeltinstruments.com > <http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/>tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: > int+61-7-4635 5784 > mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 > P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au <mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au> > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > <http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring> > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au <mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au> > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > <http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring> > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring
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