Yeah, The NSF have plenty of dash err cash!
Take for example the IceCube Neutrino Observatory located at the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station, built over the years 2005 - 2010, and estimated to have cost $229 million. Just getting the parts (including those for the -hot water - drilling rig), to the site kept their own private airline busy for years. God only knows what else this fleet does, or where it does it! Gary PS As an aside, google "murder at the south pole" re the death of Rodney Marks. What is of major interest is that although New Zealand has legal jurisdiction here, the NSF was very easily able to gag the NZ investigator, and also spirit Marks' body away: handy having you own fleet. From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2017 3:15 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Stem fields LOL! I think you'll find that adding the Voodoo sciences is fairly recent so that the mediocre don't feel too left out. aka "political correctness". Shows the problems of letting an organisation like the NSF define itself. It appears to be a US Federal government body which doles out federal taxpayer funding to universities and a few other bodies. OF COURSE they'll be as inclusive as possible. Helps get more money by creating larger pressure groups. I remember only a couple of years ago STEM generally was taken to mean Science, Technology, Engineering, Mathematics and social and political science didn't count. I make a small exception for psychology in that there is a legitimate part of it that deals with human perception/reaction aka human factors research which is what science/science fiction Jerry Pournelle did at Boeing back in the 1950s. There was even a TV series back in the late 50s about that sort of thing, "The Man and the Challenge". It is on youtube. Mike At 02:02 PM 6/6/2017, you wrote: Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01D2DECD.7D28BF10" Content-Language: en-au The National Science Foundation (NSF) definition of STEM fields includes mathematics, natural sciences, engineering, computer and information sciences, and the social and behavioral sciences - psychology, economics, sociology, and political science. From: Aus-soaring [ mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au <mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au> ] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2017 1:27 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Air brake handles Most aircraft designs are built in total numbers smaller than what a car manufacturer would put through the production line to debug the line. It is just good engineering to use what is available that will do the job. I'm guessing you've never actually done any engineering or manufactured anything. Academic, but not from any STEM fields who can't do physics or maths? Besides, you are a cowardly anonymous troll. The vast majority of people in this place identify themselves. Mike At 10:01 PM 6/5/2017, you wrote: >>You'd like the $250,000 glider to cost $300,000 or more? Most cars costing more than say $30,000 have a steering wheel that is not just a cheap plastic moulding. It does not cost $50,000 extra to do that. A wheelbarrow handle is designed to be held like 'this'. and an aircraft ccontrol column is designed to be held like 'that'. diffeerent ergonomics. One is designed to be gripped hard and the other should not be. If you don't get the difference, have a look at the grip shape on any low-cost computer joystick. It does not look anything like a wheelbarrow or bicycle handle. As Macca points out, you can use the handle from a ski stock or a Norwegian walking stick or whatever they are called. At least they're designed to be held like 'that'. 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