Careful Roger,
Last time you bought into a discussion with him he stitched you right up, or should I say added fuel to the fire.
The only advantage of flying in a Nimbus 4 (if we follow Rob's line) is that the movements aren't quite so jerky! One could go longer but with most males, time isn't the issue.
Cheers
Ian P.
Kookaviagra Precision Soaring Team
----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Druce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 6:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim



Of course he flies compentently. He was trained by George Lee in a decent
two-seater, Nimbus 4DM. Fancy regressing to a Kookaburra. Oh, the shame of
it!
Roger Druce


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 4:26 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim

Your right Chris. (of course)
Caleb belongs to that young whipersnapper generation of glider pilots we
OFITTH's just despise.
Young, virile(you should see his girlfriend) and a much smarter and serious
view of the world.
I'm trying my darndest to convert him into one of us with partnerships in
the EP-2 and letting him fly my other gliders but I think only time will
ensure he converts to OFITTH status.
Mind you he can fly tho.
Cheers
Ian P.
Kookaburra Precision Soaring Team.
----- Original Message -----
From: " Christopher Mc Donnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim



The Longwing I used to fly passengers in had the trim between the
seats and you had to physically move the passengers right thigh to get
to it.
Mmmmmmm nice in some cases. (insert Homer Simpson voice) :-) Ian, this
member of the Kookaburra Precision Flying Team is too serious.

Regards

Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: "Caleb White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 1:49 PM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim


Hi Chris,

The trim is on the left just below the cockpit frame, a rod and ball
type
arrangement, the rod continues aft for the person with the bad back
(or soon to have one) in the rear seat. (That's a Mk. 4 Kooka, the hot
one)

That's the trouble with today's sailplanes: Too much commonality!

Cheers,

Caleb

KPST

-----Original Message-----
From: " Christopher  Mc Donnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:06:53 +0930
Subject: Re: Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider

Definitly a "classy" aircraft Caleb and at your age none better to
fly a chick in :-) BTW where is the trim lever in yours?  :-)

Regards

Chris McDonnell

----- Original Message -----
From: "Caleb White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net>
Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider


> But there is a World Class Two-Seater!
>
> It's called a shortwing Kookaburra...
>
> Caleb
>
> Kooka 45
>
> KPST
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Soaring in Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net>
> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:14:50 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider
>
> On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 11:23 +1000, Peter Creswick wrote:
> > In essence, I wonder if the whole idea of a world class single
> > seater is viable to begin with. Would it not be more sensible to
> > have a world class two seater ? I admit that at first thought it
> > might be considered a heretical idea, but let's give it a run as
> > a hypothetical. Comments ?
>
> Peter
>
> I think the concept of a world class glider was probably good, the
> execution, as is visible in the form of the PW 5, was terrible.
> There have been some useful suggestions as to how that bad decision
> might have been avoided.
>
> If a reasonable performance single seat glider, backed by a
> worldwide comp system, was available at a good price, then I think
> the idea would work. The design should also include a one man rig
> trailer and (if
> possible) provision for self launching (as I too think that this
> will dominate the future of gliding).
>
> Reasonable performance is of course in the eye of the beholder. My
> thoughts are 40:1 or better max L/D, but with a modern aerofoil
> giving a good performance at 80 kts.
>
> A world class two seater is an interesting idea. We certainly need
> a good, low cost two seater to replace our ageing ab initio fleet.
> If there were a worldwide 2 seater comp to back it - as this is
> what would drive its adoption worldwide and allow economies of
> scale to be reached
> - then the idea could work well for us.
>
> With today's aerofoils and materials, I think an acceptable XC
> performance could be achieved whilst still keeping handling and
> strength in the sweet spot for ab initio training.
>
> Again, I would suggest the rules should specifically require a 2
> man rig trailer and stipulate provision for a self launching
> option.
>
> -- > Robert Hart > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> +61 (0)438 385 533
> Brisbane, Australia > http://www.hart.wattle.id.au
>
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