It is the second time a glider has hit the same fence - Bergfalke just hit
the post head (intentional) on and brought the wire down and under and a
month later bergfalke with a few new tubes it was flying again. The new
"farmer" neighbour is a active member of club and well known motorbike
person but it is dept of lands ground. Ian M
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From: "Peter Creswick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality
What if the farmer / whoever refuses ? Are you going to force the issue
legally and have them "mandated" somehow ?
Good luck.
Even if you did, what about the case of an outlanding, with an old,
hidden, partial fence, with a few strands, in the middle of a field, in
the middle of nowhere ?
It is the glider that has to be equipped to deal with the wire, not the
wire being equipped / configured to deal with the glider.
What is required is a wire cutter arrangement like cropdusters have, which
would be far - far better. They have been needed for years, but everyone
refuses to consider them. Why ?
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From: "John Parncutt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality
Given the amount of incidents which have occurred with aerodrome
perimeter
fences especially in gliding, perhaps thought should be given to
changing
the design of these fences to make them more forgiving.
Possibilities may include some sort of weak link system in each wire or
perhaps sprung sections which may allow the canopy to deflect the wire.
I'm sure there is enough ingenuity within the gliding movement to come up
with some ideas to make these fences safer whilst still performing their
function.
John Parncutt
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce
Taylor
Sent: Monday, 26 February 2007 8:24 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality
Good call, Mitch.
The only addition I would like to make is that it seems the
pilot/instructor
had very few options... he was released at low altitude without enough
energy to clear the fence, and (thinking through the evidence I have
heard)
with a downburst happening somewhere behind him. This leaves him with an
increasing tailwind, and if he was touching down somewhere near the
stall,
he is approaching the fence with no control response, in a
nosewheel-equipped glider. He DID try to groundloop, with no response.
Very tough for all, especially the instructor.
BT.
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From: "Mitchell Preston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality
Fair comment, Ron, however in this case we should perhaps refrain from
any judgement (deliberate or otherwise) until a more suitable time. I
would like to offer my condolences to the family of the student and let
my good friends at LKSC know that they are in my thoughts as they deal
with the aftermath of this accident.
Mitch.
On 25/02/2007, at 9:05 PM, Ron Sanders wrote:
Even if you have only got five feet to run before the fence YOU MUST
initiate a ground loop.
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