Nick said, "He wasn't asking if it was necessary to have the latest and greatest to win, he was asking if there was an advantage"
Oh gee was he really? <shock, horror> I would have thought the winner using an older relatively low performance glider would be most relevant to show that it was no great advantage to have a higher performance glider, (as others who didn't beat him did) and that the skill of the pilot probably counts for a lot more than the performance of the glider. Silly old me, I assumed when he said "advantage", he meant he would do better results wise in the comp, at least that was how a competition advantage was defined as I remember it. Is there some new definition of advantage I am not aware of? Todd said: "James didn't win cause he was in an Astir. he won cause he is really good. If he was in a better glider he would have won by a whole lot more" Yep, that's exactly my point Todd, it was pilot skill, not the performance of the glider that won that comp. Regards Dave ---Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2007 9:57 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals He wasn't asking if it was necessary to have the latest and greatest to win, he was asking if there was an advantage. Regards, - Nick Gilbert - Lotus Notes & Web Developer W :: (08) 8392 2147 F :: (08) 8276 5844 E :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals Dave to: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 25/09/2007 09:53 AM Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please respond to "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Hi all, Errmmm Ash, would that be why the last JG was won by James Dutchke flying an Astir CS77 with only 100kg max of ballast? Not what I would have thought as a latest and greatest glider.(-: Regards Dave L -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ashley Boyle Sent: Monday, 24 September 2007 11:41 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals Hi Not sure this has much to do with the rest of the conversation but here goes. Any thoughts?? Having a better glider at a comp like JG for instance would be a good advantage. I did some thinking and have worked out a theory its top secret but thats why im telling people. As far as i know the Joey glide comp uses club class handicaps which is fine but we are also able to carry water and i don't think there is any extra penalty for this. So if you take an older glider like your std cirrus and put a whole 60l in there then take your Discus2 or LS-8 and put 200l the better glider has way more of an advantage. So at a comp like JG you would be better off trying to get hold of the latest and greatest, am i right? Ash Mal Bruce wrote: > Nigel said > I seem to remember Michael Sommer doing pretty well in an SZD55 at Gulgong - > against LS8 and alike, was it 2004? > > 2004 did they have an 18 meter class ? http://www.mals.net/gulgong NO > Lucky they had the international pilots to have enough numbers for the comp. > > Nigel said > The glider dosenth makeith the pilot, in other words having the latest and > greatest is not the be all to end all, also remember Shane Mcaffrey doing > pretty well in a hornet in standard class at a Kingaroy nats - not to long > ago either. These pilots show raw ability. > > I remember doing well my 301 libelle . > > I have a new V2cx but I think I flew better when I used to borrow my mates > LS7! > > And will you be flying your latest and greatest in 18 meter class at the > Nationals ? > > Mal > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring