I reely reely reely hope this does not slide into another Blanik bashing 
exercise!

From: derek.rudd...@optus.com.au
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:48:55 +1100
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 75, Issue 21


















Yup, you’re wrong J

When I was looking for a club to learn at,
I tried a couple and rejected them because instead of sleek white fibreglass
machines they had crappy old K13’s

 

 



Cheers

 

Derek



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From:
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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Gary Stevenson

Sent: Friday, 18 December 2009
1:08 AM

To: Discussion
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring]
Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 75, Issue 21

 



Ian,





I love the passion of your
statements, but REALLY, is a good sideslipping characteristic, a major reason
to love a Bergy - and hate a Puchatek? In any event Mr Quinn seems to think
that the sideslipping characteristic of the Puchatek is "awesome".





 





I have not flown a
Bergfalke. (or a Puchatek for that matter), and I am tempted to add
"Thank God". However I have never yet encountered  a student
that has ever complained (in their abinitio days at least), about their first
training machine, and said straight off that it is inadequate - or worse! In
fact, even when these people have gained enough flying experience, and
flown enough different types, and are therefore in a position to be
able to make some sort of rational comparison, they ALL still regard the
ship that they did their initial training in, with a certain degree of
fondness, despite its foibles and shortcomings. 





 





I will add here (and every club
committee member should keep this very much in the forefront of their thinking
when they are pondering over replacing their aged trainer), that the viewpoint
of a new student will (almost always), be very different to their own. Where
the committee member sees a tired old hack,  the student who has just
come to the club and knows nothing (but truly wishes to fly), will see
 the answer to his/her dreams -a  thing of beauty, and a rare
and spirited steed, that will take them into another world..... and indeed they
are perfectly correct!





 





Think about your own experience, and
then dare to call me wrong!





 





Regards,





Gary 







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From: Ian Mc Phee 





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Soaring in Australia. 





Sent: Thursday,
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Give
me a Bergfalke anyday-thats why I left Keepit - that crap KRO3A (a Puchateshit)
I hate them - they have no character -  Bergfalke 3 is the worlds best
sided slipper bar none.-   ask about 600 people who have done their first
solo in a bergfalke..........Macca 



2009/12/16 rquinn <rqu...@adelaide.on.net>





Shouldn’t
be a problem.  With that big elevator the Puchatek goes over easily from
95kts.  Takes a fair bit more dive to get from there to VNE – it
ain’t exactly a slippery ship!

 

It
does do an awesome sideslip.

 

Redmond

 





From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net 
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On Behalf Of Ben Jones

Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009
9:39 PM





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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring
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There is
nothing wrong with a aircraft with a loop entry speed a couple of knots below
VNE, It makes a man out of you 8-)





 





Regards





 





Ben





VH-WKR driver
sometimes





 







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From: Stuart Welsby 





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Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:49 PM





Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 75, Issue 21





 





Very cruel.





 





KRF is much
loved and has been badly missed while the wings have been recovered. It's not a
hot ship to fly but it is getting off the ground and does the job for us pretty
well. 





 





We look
forward to it flying again soon, If I can just locate those scales!





 





Stuart W







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> But why would you take Puchatek wings to the nationals?

> 

> Dave

 





A bonfire perhaps?



 It is a little known fact that Puchatek's don't actually fly, they are so
ugly the ground repels them!   (-:



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