No way - Blaniks and K13 are superb trainers. Anything that you've got to hang
weights off to make it spin is not good enough as a trainer. A trainer has to
'bite' if ill treated, just like the 70% percent of gliders out there.
Puchtrucks are OK and do most things admirably including spinning. The only bad
thing about Blaniks is that they are a dog to maintain and the instructor has
to do everything with mirrors in the back, otherwise they handle beautifully.
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From: gavin wrigley <gavi...@hotmail.com>
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Fri, 18 December, 2009 8:54:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 75, Issue 21
I reely reely reely hope this does not slide into another Blanik bashing
exercise!
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From: derek.rudd...@optus.com.au
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:48:55 +1100
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 75, Issue 21
Yup, you’re wrong J
When I was looking for a club to learn at, I tried a couple and rejected them
because instead of sleek white fibreglass machines they had crappy old K13’s
Cheers
Derek
-----Original Message-----
From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Gary Stevenson
Sent: Friday, 18 December 2009 1:08 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 75, Issue 21
Ian,
I love the passion of your statements, but REALLY, is a good sideslipping
characteristic, a major reason to love a Bergy - and hate a Puchatek? In any
event Mr Quinn seems to think that the sideslipping characteristic of the
Puchatek is "awesome".
I have not flown a Bergfalke. (or a Puchatek for that matter), and I am tempted
to add "Thank God". However I have never yet encountered a student that has
ever complained (in their abinitio days at least), about their first training
machine, and said straight off that it is inadequate - or worse! In fact, even
when these people have gained enough flying experience, and flown enough
different types, and are therefore in a position to be able to make some sort
of rational comparison, they ALL still regard the ship that they did their
initial training in, with a certain degree of fondness, despite its foibles and
shortcomings.
I will add here (and every club committee member should keep this very much in
the forefront of their thinking when they are pondering over replacing their
aged trainer), that the viewpoint of a new student will (almost always), be
very different to their own. Where the committee member sees a tired old hack,
the student who has just come to the club and knows nothing (but truly wishes
to fly), will see the answer to his/her dreams -a thing of beauty, and a rare
and spirited steed, that will take them into another world..... and indeed they
are perfectly correct!
Think about your own experience, and then dare to call me wrong!
Regards,
Gary
----- Original Message -----
>From:Ian Mc Phee
>To:Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
>Sent:Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:37 PM
>Subject:Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 75, Issue 21
>
>Give me a Bergfalke anyday-thats why I left Keepit - that crap KRO3A (a
>Puchateshit) I hate them - they have no character - Bergfalke 3 is the worlds
>best sided slipper bar none.- ask about 600 people who have done their first
>solo in a bergfalke..........Macca
>2009/12/16 rquinn <rqu...@adelaide.on.net>
>Shouldn’t be a problem. With that big elevator the Puchatek goes over easily
>from 95kts. Takes a fair bit more dive to get from there to VNE – it ain’t
>exactly a slippery ship!
>
>It does do an awesome sideslip.
>
>Redmond
>
>From:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
>[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ben Jones
>Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 9:39 PM
>
>To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
>Subject:Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 75, Issue 21
>
>There is nothing wrong with a aircraft with a loop entry speed a couple of
>knots below VNE, It makes a man out of you 8-)
>
>Regards
>
>Ben
>VH-WKR driver sometimes
>
>----- Original Message -----
>>From:Stuart Welsby
>>To:Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
>>Sent:Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:49 PM
>>Subject:Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 75, Issue 21
>>
>>Very cruel.
>>
>>KRF is much loved and has been badly missed while the wings have been
>>recovered. It's not a hot ship to fly but it is getting off the ground and
>>does the job for us pretty well.
>>
>>We look forward to it flying again soon, If I can just locate those scales!
>>
>>Stuart W
>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From:David Lawley
>>>To:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
>>>Sent:Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:04 AM
>>>Subject:Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 75, Issue 21
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> But why would you take Puchatek wings to the nationals?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>A bonfire perhaps?
>>>
>>> It is a little known fact that Puchatek's don't actually fly, they are so
>>>ugly the ground repels them! (-:
>>>
>>>Dave L
>>>
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