I think one of the issues that rarely surfaces in the debate about radio use
is that there are a couple of very fundamental differences between the
operational behaviour of gliders and powered aircraft. 

Powered aircraft, to a good first approximation, travel around in straight
lines at constant altitude.  With this type of operation, radio reporting of
position, track and altitude makes a lot of sense because a listener can
then infer the likely position and altitude of the aircraft for some time
into the future.  In the circuit a similar situation arises - powered
aircraft can be required and expected to follow set tracks at known
altitudes and it makes sense for them to do so.  The radio calls they make
can supplement or even supplant lookout because the behaviour (as long as
they follow the procedures) is highly predictable.  Situational awareness is
considerably enhanced by effective radio use.

This is simply not true for gliders.  An en-route position report from a
cross-country glider gives minimal information about future position and
none about future altitude.  It may provide "ops-normal" information, and it
may confirm the glider's intended destination, but gliders can and do divert
widely from direct tracks, fall into holes, catch huge thermals, land out or
join gaggles.  No one, including the pilot, can do much more than guess
where they will be in 20 minutes time.  That's why it is fun :)

In the vicinity of the gliding site, local flying is relatively random.
Thermals will be taken where thermals are found, gliders may head in any
direction to find the next one, and even if position reports are given they
do no more than alert the listener to the fact that there is a glider in the
air, somewhere near the field.

In the circuit things are a bit better.  Here at least the chances are that
a downwind call means the glider is on downwind and can be expected to land
soon.  It still doesn't say exactly what will happen next though, because
the glider will modify the circuit to suit the circumstances.  Maybe it will
hit sink and turn in early, or maybe find lift and either extend or (in
extreme cases) thermal away.  Other radio calls can and probably will be
made in these situations but it is still relatively unpredictable behaviour
compared to what can be expected from power traffic.

It is this more random behaviour that makes lookout far more important than
radio procedure to a gliding operation.  A radio call from a glider will
nearly always impart far less situational awareness than the same call from
a powered aircraft.  This is not laziness on the part of the glider pilot,
and it will not be solved by making glider pilots talk more (or talk more
formally) on the radio.  It is an inevitable result of what gliders are.

Cheers

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Texler,
Michael
Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:49
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: [Aus-soaring] The CAAPs and How would you do a cct entry for
itinerant power a/c, straw poll.

Putting this all another way:

Straw poll:
If you were flying a power a/c with a cct speed of 100 knots, into an
uncertified aerdorome that had glider ops, how would you manoevure
yourself and how would you join the circuit?

Michael

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