Every touchscreen device has relatively poor brightness because of the several layers required to detect and operate the touches. I have not seen an Ipad but I see plenty of people in the street squinting at their iPhones on a sunny day.
Most such devices have also had to make serious compromises between battery life and brightness. A device that has not been specifically designed for the ambient conditions of a glider cockpit on a sunny day will never be bright enough. The design parameters won't have required it because the design focus groups would prefer battery life to sunlight visibility by 1000 to 1. If you want something that is bright enough in every possible situation and without special attention to shading, you should buy a specialised gliding instrument such as Altair, Clearnav, LX8000/9000 and the like. It is notable that none of these instruments use touchscreens, and all are designed to use external power sources. Cheers Tim -----Original Message----- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Urs Rothacher Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 16:21 To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NEW SeeYou OUDIE Now Available iPhone / iPad glide computer available soon: http://tinyurl.com/iPhone-iGlide (German, no English translation yet) They demo'ed it at AERO in Germany this year. Looks very slick, but the iPhone may be somewhat too small for it... Normally I would not approve of any touchy screeny thingies for flying, but they found some neat solutions. On the other hand: The OUDIE is very well known technology, both in hard- and software and is available now. Enjoy Urs -----Original Message----- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Tim Shirley Sent: Donnerstag, 3. Juni 2010 4:53 To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NEW SeeYou OUDIE Now Available I can support Mike's comments - OUDIE is a PNA (Personal Navigational Assistant, aka Car GPS) with a bundled licence for the PNA version of SeeYou mobile. The main difference between SeeYou mobile for a PNA and for a PDA is that the PNA version operates entirely through the touchscreen whereas the PDA version makes use of buttons as well as touchscreen. Personally I use an HP312 car navigator running SeeYou mobile. It took a bit of work to set up this combination using instructions from the SeeYou website, which would have been removed by buying the bundled OUDIE setup. The total cost of my kit was a bit less than the OUDIE but not a lot. I don't know whether there is a version of XCSoar that runs on a car navigator, but if there is then that could lower the cost as well. Placement in the glider, removal of terrain colours and the use of larger and blacker fonts (all of which are simple config choices in SeeYou mobile) solved the visibility issue for me and in this respect I think all PNA's would be about the same. It can be fine, but don't expect to just throw it in anywhere and be able to see it in bright sunlight. These things are not Altairs or LX8000's, but they are also not the same price. I guess you take your choice... Tim -----Original Message----- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 07:58 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NEW SeeYou OUDIE Now Available At 11:04 PM 3/06/2010, you wrote: >Hi Al, >Is it a mobile Altair? >(pity about the name) >PeterS It runs Seeyou mobile AFAIK. It is actually a Chinese manfactured car GPS. Here's what I heard from a friend who contacted the SeeYou guys. "I have just now been speaking with Andre Kolaj about the Oudie. He was not evasive at all about the brightness of the screen etc and told me that it is an imported car GPS from China and that if I wanted it to be cheap I could get one and install the soft ware and then put up with getting the cables for the glider etc = BUT he said that the brightness is actually only about 300 lumens and sort of the same as any car GPS. Of some use but not brilliant to quote him." Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No virus found in this incoming message. 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