Hi all Tim is correct about the turnpoint and airspace files, they were selected and implemented by the Competition CD and he is the only one who can change them at this point. Comments need to be directed to Chris Stephens for any concerns that you may have in regards to these issues. If anyone needs contact details for Chris please contact me off forum and I will be happy to provide them.
I do agree that the airspace file is quite large and I genuinely appreciate everyone’s comments of the impact of the file size. I was previously unaware of that impact and having now run some further tests on my iPAQ running WinPilot I agree that there is a notable performance degradation compared to other airspace files that I had used previously. It needs to be addressed and I have advised the CD of my opinion on that matter. Re the turnpoint file, yes it is one that has been used for several years but that doesn’t mean it is not a suitable set of turnpoints. I had discussed this with the CD and his reasoning is that he wants to retain the maximum flexibility for task setting. Other issues surrounding the number of turnpoints in this file have been brought to his attention by myself and several others. Whilst I am happy to continue the discussion on this with anyone, if you want them changed then I suggest that it would be appropriate to direct any further comment or concern on these issues to the Competition Director. Regards, ROSS From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of tom claffey Sent: Friday, 27 January 2012 10:09 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 50th Multi Class Nationals at Narromine Tim, My reply re points was a direct reply to Ross who is NCC chair, an organizer of the Nationals and had just posted here! Tom _____ From: Tim Shirley <tshir...@internode.on.net> To: tom claffey <to...@yahoo.com>; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2012 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 50th Multi Class Nationals at Narromine It seems a bit odd to be raising a concern on aus-soaring that is specific to one competition . The only people who can do anything about it (should anything need to be done about it) are the CD or perhaps other officials of the competition, who may or may not read this forum. The relevant files are referenced in the local rules of the event and so can only be changed by officials. It isn't a democracy. Can I suggest it be taken off-list and directly with them? Cheers Tim tra dire e fare c'è mezzo il mare On 26/01/2012 11:28, tom claffey wrote: There is no airspace of concern in the task area? Start points in the turnpoint file are the old ones. Tom _____ From: Ross McLean <mailto:ross...@bigpond.net.au> <ross...@bigpond.net.au> To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2012 1:07 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 50th Multi Class Nationals at Narromine Hi Chris The airspace file was provided to the organizers by a highly experienced competition pilot and the CD felt that the turnpoint file developed by Miles Gore-Brown previously gave the task setters a whole lot of flexibility to set tasks according to the weather variables. There are no real airspace issues tasking out of Narromine so it wasn’t felt necessary to assign a “playing field” as such in the airspace file but rather to provide a file that identified all the CTAFR and Danger Area airspace restrictions that are present locally and are generally only activated by NOTAM. There is really no Restricted Airspace in the realistic task areas out of Narromine. I have personally uploaded the airspace file to my iPaq running Winpilot and have found no problem with it at all. I am left wondering what your issue is in real terms. Regards, ROSS From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Chris Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 25 January 2012 4:35 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 50th Multi Class Nationals at Narromine Narromine Nationals Competitors, The Narromine Nationals web site has links to the turnpoint and airspace files (see below) which from my point of view have issues * For those WinPilot users there are issues with the official airspace file because it is too large. It looks like it covers the whole continent. * The official turnpoint file looks like one Miles put together for record flying out of Narromine many years ago. From my point of view it is not suitable in its current form. The joeyglide 2010 airspace and turnpoint files for Narromine look much better. http://soaringweb.org/TP/Narromine Regards Chris _____ From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ross McLean Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2012 4:18 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] 50th Multi Class Nationals at Narromine 50th MultiClass Nationals Preparation Finalised: We're All Set!! the organisation is all in place and we are ready to go. All sections of the website www.narromineglidingclub.com.au/Narromine50/MultiClass2012.html are fully functional. The rules, handicaps, turnpoints, airspace files are all on the site and are available for download. The website has the facility to upload your log files directly to the scorer from your web browser and you can check the scores online with a single click. The weather page is comprehensive and apart from the daily met briefing each day provided by the competition organizers you will be able to do your own forecasting well ahead of time. If you want to follow the progress of the pilots during the task each day you will be able to track them with the SPOT device directly from the website. If you haven’t registered for the competition yet there are still a few places available and you will be very welcome to join the fun. You can download the entry form from the website and email it back to the comp organizers. It promises to be a great Comp! We hope you enjoy it and have fun. 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