Incorrect. He used the moon for his diamond height gain. 

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> On 13 Jan 2014, at 15:05, Ben Loxton <blox...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ingo Renner has only one turnpoint..... Earth.....
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:54 PM, James Dutschke <james.m.dutsc...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> I think they had it right with the blaniks. I don't think anyone ever had a 
>> turnpoint problem in a blanik. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 12 Jan 2014, at 21:20, Ben Loxton <blox...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> it all reminds me of a tale about a horse drawn zeppelin…….
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Jan 2014, at 12:35 pm, Adam Woolley <go_soar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Don't worry Rolf, this topic will get to team flying & GFA bashing soon - 
>>>> then Mark Newton will step in, & the cycle will continue...
>>>> 
>>>> I was thinking the same thing..!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> WPP
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11 Jan 2014, at 6:49, "rolf a. buelter" <rbuel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You people are something. Somebody asks where the convention of  
>>>>> turnpopint numbers instead of descriptors come from. Fair enough question 
>>>>> if it rains cats and dogs outside and all other inside activities are 
>>>>> exhausted and deadly boredom set in.
>>>>> Now you're suggesting that use of these numbers brings hell and damnation 
>>>>> or at the very least makes you crash into the Atlantic or Mt Erebus or 
>>>>> somewhere or at best loose your tail on take off. I'm surprised that 
>>>>> nobody doug out the Gimly glider yet and suggests that if we have to use 
>>>>> numbers they should at least be imperial.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rolf
>>>>> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:55:54 +1000
>>>>> To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
>>>>> From: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Turnpoints
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is the frightening bit:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  "the aircraft computer applied vastly less thrust "
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there something wrong with having the computer work out the power 
>>>>> setting required and have the flight crew move the throttles to the 
>>>>> required setting?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or having an acceleration monitor with a liftoff prediction once the 
>>>>> thing starts moving?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or having flight crew familiar enough with the aircraft to know that the 
>>>>> thrust setting called for, at a weight you should have some feel for, 
>>>>> seems wrong?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> .At 09:05 AM 10/01/2014, you wrote:
>>>>> On 10/01/2014 8:47 AM, opsw...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If people wish to continue with using just numbers they should
>>>>> revisit the Air NZ accident in Antarctica. Individuals working alone, no
>>>>> cross checking and inputting at dark O'clock.  Sooner or later you
>>>>> will have a very uncomfortable experience. 
>>>>> I've seen it time and time again even in professional aviation.
>>>>> Yes indeed.  This one was very close to home, and perilously close to 
>>>>> being Australia's worst air disaster.    The essential message is in 
>>>>> the first couple of paragraphs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> tn
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