Hi Derek,
Hope you are well. This is a very late response to your email, but as no one 
else seems to have made comment on your suggestion, let me say that you have 
summed up the entire discussion in a single line. Well done.

As a rule of thumb, early X/C flights (dual or solo), should not exceed 3 
hours. 

There has been some suggestions that a good trailer is almost essential for 
road retrieves. What a load of rot! A good trailer is a great asset, but it is 
by no means essential. What IS ESSENTIAL is that the pilot intending to go X/C 
is totally familiar with the workings of the trailer that IS available. Quite 
simply, if the pilot is not familiar with the trailer, then NO X/C for that 
pilot until this exercise is done. 

Just possibly, said pilot might get off his a*se, and make a few improvements 
to said trailer, if the trailer is a bit marginal (almost always!), but in my 
experience, this is a rare occurrence indeed.

Gary


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From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net 
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Derek Ruddock
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2015 7:54 PM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Two Seater Nationals

You don't need a DG1000: take the K13! (but don't go as far :) )

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From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net 
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of DMcD
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2015 6:02 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Two Seater Nationals

>>the GFA pilot training programme for more cross-country exposure during the 
>>ab-initio stage.

Who said that!

If only that happened more during training. IMHO, that's the single most 
important thing for a club to do when trying to make the conversion from 
student pilot to addicted and committed flyer. Having done enough HG flying to 
know what I was up for, the endless circuit training did not kill my enthusiasm 
but it can.

My son said at one point that he was wondering what it was all about until he 
got to cloud base on day… and I don't think anyone ever took him XC during 
training.

I have tried to persuade our club to stop the clock and some point and say to 
students at some point, "this is not being charged for… we're going to fly 
somewhere for an hour to show you why we all do it."

I'm sure it would make a big difference to the number of pilots who drop out 
after going solo. But then we don't have something like the DG which would make 
getting home more likely than in a Grob or K21
:-)

D

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