You’re talking about a government that plans to remove the UK from the EU with 
a sledgehammer. 

They effectively lost an unlosable election.

Now it’s Corey Bernadi style conservative politics until the next early 
election.

Cheers,

jsl

John Lindsay
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> On 13 Jun 2017, at 5:42 pm, Martin Hepworth <max...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> We'll see how it does once they get to use WhatsApp like the UK Conservative 
> Party and realise the political fallout if the newpapers are able to break 
> this along with the voicemail!
> 
> -- 
> Martin Hepworth, CISSP
> Oxford, UK
> 
> On 13 June 2017 at 08:57, Nathanael Bettridge <nathan...@prodigy.com.au 
> <mailto:nathan...@prodigy.com.au>> wrote:
> That’s the most terrifying line in his speech tbh. The privacy of someone who 
> has not been found guilty of a crime should only be overridden by a judge, 
> considering all the factors.
> 
> Also, https://xkcd.com/538/ <https://xkcd.com/538/> comes to mind J
> 
>  
> 
> <image001.png>
> 
>  
> 
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net 
> <mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net>] On Behalf Of Phillip Grasso
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 June 2017 5:34 PM
> To: Mark Newton <new...@atdot.dotat.org <mailto:new...@atdot.dotat.org>>
> Cc: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Government intends to pass TSSR this parliament
> 
>  
> 
> "The privacy of a terrorist can never be more important than public safety. 
> Never."
> 
>  
> 
> Is it a question of privacy or cost? The means exist to decrypt, its just 
> more expensive. 
> 
>  
> 
> On 13 June 2017 at 00:16, Mark Newton <new...@atdot.dotat.org 
> <mailto:new...@atdot.dotat.org>> wrote:
> 
> Brandis: "Trust me, we only want the envelope, not the content."
> 
> <David Speers interviews him to see what that actually means, everybody 
> laughs>
> 
> Brandis: "Actually, we want the content too."
> 
> <silence>
> 
> 
>   - mark
> 
> 
> On 06/13/2017 04:16 PM, James Andrewartha wrote:
> 
> https://www.pm.gov.au/media/2017-06-13/national-security-statement 
> <https://www.pm.gov.au/media/2017-06-13/national-security-statement>
> 
> Also includes the usual BS about breaking encryption in the name of
> national security, aka the war on maths.
> 
> "However encrypted messaging applications are also used by criminals and
> terrorists - at the moment much of this traffic is difficult for our
> security agencies to decrypt, and indeed for our Five Eyes partners as
> well.
> 
> Most of the major platforms of this kind are based in the United States
> where a strong libertarian tradition resists Government access to private
> communications as the FBI found when Apple would not help unlock the
> iPhone of the dead San Bernardino terrorist.
> 
> The privacy of a terrorist can never be more important than public safety.
> Never."
> 
>  
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