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On 13 June 2017 at 19:53, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote: > When we talk of Privacy as a fundamental principle of democracy since the > days of Magna Carta, we need to put that in context. > > Firstly, we need to recognise the authority of the State is necessary for > security and freedom. > > Secondly, to a large but not (Josef Fritzl) extent, what you do in your > basement is no one else's business. But internet traffic crosses property > boundaries, into the public space, and the carriage of that traffic in the > public space is through licensed carriers. > > Thirdly, it would be negligent of governments to simply cede the cyber > domain to the crooks, crazies, and creeps. The internet is going to be > regulated, and its necessary for good government and public order that that > be the case. > > Sooner or later, crypto is going to be regulated and you'll need to license > private keys in escrow. That this isn't already the case is simply the fault > of legislation failing to keep pace with technology. > > Kind regards > > Paul Wilkins > > On 13 June 2017 at 19:11, Robert Hudson <hud...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> It is expensive in many ways - to achieve near-real time interception and >> decryption (in-flight or at-rest) basically requires the keys. Elsewise it >> can't be achieved in a suitably short time. >> >> On 13 Jun. 2017 5:34 pm, "Phillip Grasso" <phillip.gra...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> "The privacy of a terrorist can never be more important than public >>> safety. Never." >>> >>> Is it a question of privacy or cost? The means exist to decrypt, its just >>> more expensive. >>> >>> On 13 June 2017 at 00:16, Mark Newton <new...@atdot.dotat.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Brandis: "Trust me, we only want the envelope, not the content." >>>> >>>> <David Speers interviews him to see what that actually means, everybody >>>> laughs> >>>> >>>> Brandis: "Actually, we want the content too." >>>> >>>> <silence> >>>> >>>> >>>> - mark >>>> >>>> >>>> On 06/13/2017 04:16 PM, James Andrewartha wrote: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.pm.gov.au/media/2017-06-13/national-security-statement >>>>> >>>>> Also includes the usual BS about breaking encryption in the name of >>>>> national security, aka the war on maths. >>>>> >>>>> "However encrypted messaging applications are also used by criminals >>>>> and >>>>> terrorists - at the moment much of this traffic is difficult for our >>>>> security agencies to decrypt, and indeed for our Five Eyes partners as >>>>> well. >>>>> >>>>> Most of the major platforms of this kind are based in the United States >>>>> where a strong libertarian tradition resists Government access to >>>>> private >>>>> communications as the FBI found when Apple would not help unlock the >>>>> iPhone of the dead San Bernardino terrorist. >>>>> >>>>> The privacy of a terrorist can never be more important than public >>>>> safety. >>>>> Never." >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> AusNOG mailing list >>> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AusNOG mailing list >> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >> > > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog