They won't use WhatsApp because they already use Signal.

Yes, they seem to have no idea that they're arguing in favor of making their 
private intra-Party discussion available to the Feds. 

You'd think the ALP would give that a bit of thought, considering what ASIO 
were doing to them throughout the 1970s.

   - mark

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> On 13 Jun 2017, at 18:12, Martin Hepworth <max...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> We'll see how it does once they get to use WhatsApp like the UK Conservative 
> Party and realise the political fallout if the newpapers are able to break 
> this along with the voicemail!
> 
> -- 
> Martin Hepworth, CISSP
> Oxford, UK
> 
>> On 13 June 2017 at 08:57, Nathanael Bettridge <nathan...@prodigy.com.au> 
>> wrote:
>> That’s the most terrifying line in his speech tbh. The privacy of someone 
>> who has not been found guilty of a crime should only be overridden by a 
>> judge, considering all the factors.
>> 
>> Also, https://xkcd.com/538/ comes to mind J
>> 
>>  
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>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Phillip 
>> Grasso
>> Sent: Tuesday, 13 June 2017 5:34 PM
>> To: Mark Newton <new...@atdot.dotat.org>
>> Cc: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Government intends to pass TSSR this parliament
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> "The privacy of a terrorist can never be more important than public safety. 
>> Never."
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Is it a question of privacy or cost? The means exist to decrypt, its just 
>> more expensive. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 13 June 2017 at 00:16, Mark Newton <new...@atdot.dotat.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Brandis: "Trust me, we only want the envelope, not the content."
>> 
>> <David Speers interviews him to see what that actually means, everybody 
>> laughs>
>> 
>> Brandis: "Actually, we want the content too."
>> 
>> <silence>
>> 
>> 
>>   - mark
>> 
>> 
>> On 06/13/2017 04:16 PM, James Andrewartha wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.pm.gov.au/media/2017-06-13/national-security-statement
>> 
>> Also includes the usual BS about breaking encryption in the name of
>> national security, aka the war on maths.
>> 
>> "However encrypted messaging applications are also used by criminals and
>> terrorists - at the moment much of this traffic is difficult for our
>> security agencies to decrypt, and indeed for our Five Eyes partners as
>> well.
>> 
>> Most of the major platforms of this kind are based in the United States
>> where a strong libertarian tradition resists Government access to private
>> communications as the FBI found when Apple would not help unlock the
>> iPhone of the dead San Bernardino terrorist.
>> 
>> The privacy of a terrorist can never be more important than public safety.
>> Never."
>> 
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