Nah, the NBN issue is more along the lines of stringing a cable across a
neighboring property, through a tree and low enough across a shared
driveway for a truck to rip it out, when the entire installation is
supposed to be underground (and yes the pits and conduit exist).
Then further techs coming along and confirming it is supposed to be
underground, but not actually rectifying the installation...
Then the ISP doing a forced port of the service despite being advised the
installation is incorrect and already developing faults from the tree
puling the cable in the wind, and deactivating the previous existing ADSL
and landline service. Then refusing to revert the migration after screwing
up in the first place.

Then compounding the issue by his discovering a potentially crippling
security flaw in the new setup because the ISP wouldn't disclose
configuration details. The only thing the ISP has really done right was to
fix the security issue when advised... NBNCo and their contractors on the
other hand have pretty much done nothing right.

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Mark Newton <new...@atdot.dotat.org>
wrote:

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Giles Pollock <glp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Difference is on NBN your landline is converted to a VoIP line and
> provided by the ISP. Said ISP won't divulge the SIP configuration so if you
> want to use it you're locked in to using their provided router. A router
> which dials home for config and happily feeds back all the leases it gives
> out to client devices back to the ISPs controller.
>
> Sorry, huh, land … line?
>
> More seriously, this isn’t an NBN issue. iiNet has been doing the exact
> same thing with their Bob CPE on ADSL for at least the last 8 years.
>
> If you don’t like it, but your service from a service provider who doesn’t
> use TR-069 or something, idk. It’s up to you.
>
>    - mark
>
>
>
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