On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, Mark Newton wrote:

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Giles Pollock <glp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Difference is on NBN your landline is converted to a VoIP line and provided 
> > by the ISP. Said ISP won't divulge the SIP configuration so if you want to 
> > use it you're locked in to using their provided router. A router which 
> > dials home for config and happily feeds back all the leases it gives out to 
> > client devices back to the ISPs controller.
> 
> Sorry, huh, land … line?
> 
> More seriously, this isn’t an NBN issue. iiNet has been doing the exact same 
> thing with their Bob CPE on ADSL for at least the last 8 years.
> 
> If you don’t like it, but your service from a service provider who doesn’t 
> use TR-069 or something, idk. It’s up to you.

Another reason to use your own router is for security updates. iiNet's 
Budii Lite was released a bit over three years ago [1] and is already out 
of support and won't get any KRACK fixes [2]. Meanwhile LEDE (the 
successor to OpenWRT) has its update out now, beating several major wifi 
vendors.

[1] http://blog.iinet.net.au/budii-lite-modem/
[2] https://twitter.com/JamesBromberger/status/921258589452300288

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