On Sep 1, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Rather than pick apart each others' semantics, I think we can agree, and the 
> reality is, that to publish TV/Radio content requires a license. The internet 
> does not. However, both cross into the public domain in the carriage of 
> content - TV/Radio via government controlled radio spectrum (though cable 
> equally requires a license regardless of the carriage conduit being entirely 
> in private hands). Internet carriage crosses into the realm of governmental 
> control where carriage crosses property lines, and thus you need a carrier 
> license.

Again, Paul, that is simply not true.

Internet carriage does not require a carrier license, and does not cross into 
the realm of Government control when it crosses property boundaries.

> Under pretty much all the internet legislation, if you're running a local 
> network within your private domain, government legislation doesn't apply.

Again: Simply not true. Your mental model of how Australia works is faulty.


> This is very much analogous to the physical realm where you can do what you 
> like within the privacy of your home.

Also not true!

> The government is going to be able to enforce the Assistance and Access Bill, 
> because to operate a business in Australia, requires a local presence.

No, that’s not true either. The entire concept of online commerce is based on 
the fact that you can offer products and services to people without needing a 
presence in their country.

I challenge you to identify the “local presence” for Signal.

> Your trade marks and intellectual property need recognition, and you require 
> a registered company to conduct business and to hold bank accounts. If you 
> won't comply with assistance/capability notices, you won't be able to conduct 
> business in Australia.

Your model is faulty. None of those statements are true either.

You’re making stuff up. I can’t quite work out why, but I know it’s unhelpful.

  - mark



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