On Sep 1, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Rather than pick apart each others' semantics, I think we can agree, and the > reality is, that to publish TV/Radio content requires a license. The internet > does not. However, both cross into the public domain in the carriage of > content - TV/Radio via government controlled radio spectrum (though cable > equally requires a license regardless of the carriage conduit being entirely > in private hands). Internet carriage crosses into the realm of governmental > control where carriage crosses property lines, and thus you need a carrier > license.
Again, Paul, that is simply not true. Internet carriage does not require a carrier license, and does not cross into the realm of Government control when it crosses property boundaries. > Under pretty much all the internet legislation, if you're running a local > network within your private domain, government legislation doesn't apply. Again: Simply not true. Your mental model of how Australia works is faulty. > This is very much analogous to the physical realm where you can do what you > like within the privacy of your home. Also not true! > The government is going to be able to enforce the Assistance and Access Bill, > because to operate a business in Australia, requires a local presence. No, that’s not true either. The entire concept of online commerce is based on the fact that you can offer products and services to people without needing a presence in their country. I challenge you to identify the “local presence” for Signal. > Your trade marks and intellectual property need recognition, and you require > a registered company to conduct business and to hold bank accounts. If you > won't comply with assistance/capability notices, you won't be able to conduct > business in Australia. Your model is faulty. None of those statements are true either. You’re making stuff up. I can’t quite work out why, but I know it’s unhelpful. - mark _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog