Mark, 1 - I take a dim view of the implied bad faith. You need to have a think about t he implications of what you're saying before posting in a public space.
2 - Per the ordinary conventions of debate, contradiction is not an argument. If you believe a statement to be in error, there is an onus to offer evidence. I o n the other hand, have posted extensively on this thread, and quoted the relevan t legislation. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 01:04, Mark Newton <new...@atdot.dotat.org> wrote: > > On Sep 1, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Rather than pick apart each others' semantics, I think we can agree, and > the reality is, that to publish TV/Radio content requires a license. The > internet does not. However, both cross into the public domain in the > carriage of content - TV/Radio via government controlled radio spectrum > (though cable equally requires a license regardless of the carriage conduit > being entirely in private hands). Internet carriage crosses into the realm > of governmental control where carriage crosses property lines, and thus you > need a carrier license. > > Again, Paul, that is simply not true. > > Internet carriage does not require a carrier license, and does not cross > into the realm of Government control when it crosses property boundaries. > > > Under pretty much all the internet legislation, if you're running a > local network within your private domain, government legislation doesn't > apply. > > Again: Simply not true. Your mental model of how Australia works is faulty. > > > > This is very much analogous to the physical realm where you can do what > you like within the privacy of your home. > > Also not true! > > > The government is going to be able to enforce the Assistance and Access > Bill, because to operate a business in Australia, requires a local presence. > > No, that’s not true either. The entire concept of online commerce is based > on the fact that you can offer products and services to people without > needing a presence in their country. > > I challenge you to identify the “local presence” for Signal. > > > Your trade marks and intellectual property need recognition, and you > require a registered company to conduct business and to hold bank accounts. > If you won't comply with assistance/capability notices, you won't be able > to conduct business in Australia. > > Your model is faulty. None of those statements are true either. > > You’re making stuff up. I can’t quite work out why, but I know it’s > unhelpful. > > - mark > > > >
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