Thank you! C.
On Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 08:07 Alice Russo <[email protected]> wrote: > Cedric, Alex, > > Thank you for your replies. We have updated the document as requested, > with two changes to the text provided for Section 1.1: removed extraneous > parenthesis in 'atmosphere)'; changed 'but by also reducing' to 'but also > by reducing'. > > This diff file shows only the changes since the last posted version: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-lastrfcdiff.html > > > The revised files are here (please refresh): > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.html > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.txt > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.pdf > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.xml > > This diff file shows all changes from the approved I-D: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-diff.html > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-rfcdiff.html (side by side) > > This diff file shows the changes made during AUTH48 thus far: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-auth48diff.html > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by > side) > > Cedric wrote: > > I approve as well! > > Your approval has been recorded. > > We will wait to hear from Alex again and from Jeff, Marie-Paule, and > Jérôme before continuing the publication process. This page shows the > AUTH48 status of your document: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9845 > > Thank you. > RFC Editor/ar > > > On Sep 15, 2025, at 11:58 AM, Alexander Clemm <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Dear Alice, > > > > I have returned from my trip. Thank you so much for your support in > driving this forward, and to Carlos for jumping in during my absence! > > > > I have the following small comments outstanding: > > > > (1) Could you please record my affiliation as "Sympotech"? (Address, > email etc staying the same, just s/Independent/Sympotech/). Thank you! > > > > > > (2) Current: > > > > Therefore, the networking industry has an important role to play in > > meeting sustainability goals and not just by enabling others to > > reduce their reliance on energy but by also reducing its own. > > > > I find the "and" that was added a bit awkward; why not make it a comma > which more clearly separates the two aspekts (not just one, but als the > other) to result in: > > > > Suggested: > > > > Therefore, the networking industry has an important role to play in > > meeting sustainability goals, not just by enabling others to > > reduce their reliance on energy but by also reducing its own. > > > > (3) Section 6.1. We got rid of "right-placing", replacing it with > "correctly place". "Correct" is not the proper term here; you can place > functions in ways that are correct but that are at the same time > inefficient and suboptimal. I think "correct" needs to be replaced with > "smart" here. i.e.: > > > > Current: > > Likewise, there are opportunities to correctly place functionality in > > the network for optimal effectiveness. > > > > Suggested: > > > > Likewise, there are opportunities to smartly place functionality in > > the network for optimal effectiveness. > > > > (4) After the text changes, I think the 2nd paragraph in the motivation > now sounds a bit awkward and redundant (not wrong, but can be stylistically > improved; also this is at the very beginning of the document where we > should perhaps word things not quite as lengthily and should come to the > point). I liked the original version better. This will not be worth > holding the document up over, but I am wondering if we could still apply > some wordsmithing, perhaps: > > > > (If that throws in too much a wrench, please let me know in which case I > will withdraw my comment as it is not worth holding the document up over) > > > > Current: > > The science behind greenhouse gas emissions and their relationship > > with climate change is complex. However, there is overwhelming > > scientific consensus pointing toward a clear correlation between > > climate change and a rising amount of greenhouse gases in the > > atmosphere. When we say 'greenhouse gases' or GHG, we are referring > > to gases in the Earth's atmosphere that trap heat and contribute to > > the greenhouse effect. They include carbon dioxide (CO2), methane > > (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and fluorinated gases (as covered under > > the Kyoto Protocol and Paris Agreement). In terms of emissions from > > human activity, the dominant greenhouse gas is CO2; consequently, it > > often becomes shorthand for "all GHGs". However, other gases are > > also converted into "CO2-equivalents", or CO2e. One greenhouse gas > > of particular concern, but by no means the only one, is carbon > > dioxide (CO2). Carbon dioxide is emitted in the process of burning > > fuels to generate energy that is used, for example, to power > > electrical devices such as networking equipment. Notable here is the > > use of fossil fuels (such as oil, which releases CO2 that had long > > been removed from the earth's atmosphere), as opposed to the use of > > renewable or sustainable fuels that do not "add" to the amount of CO2 > > in the atmosphere. There are additional gases associated with > > electricity generation, in particular methane (CH4) and nitrous oxide > > (N2O). Although they exist in smaller quantities, they have an even > > higher Global Warming Potential (GWP). > > > > Suggested: > > > > The science behind greenhouse gas emissions and their relationship > > with climate change is complex. However, there is overwhelming > > scientific consensus pointing toward a clear correlation between > > climate change and a rising amount of greenhouse gases in the > > atmosphere. When we say 'greenhouse gases' or GHG, we are referring > > to gases in the Earth's atmosphere that trap heat and contribute to > > the greenhouse effect. They include carbon dioxide (CO2), methane > > (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and fluorinated gases (as covered under > > the Kyoto Protocol and Paris Agreement). > > In terms of emissions from > > human activity, the dominant greenhouse gas is carbon dioxide (CO2). > > CO2 is emitted in the process of burning > > fuels to generate energy that is used, for example, to power > > electrical devices such as networking equipment. Those fuels often > include fossil fuels (such as oil), which releases > > CO2 that had long > > been removed from the earth's atmosphere), as opposed to the use of > > renewable or sustainable fuels that do not "add" to the amount of CO2 > > in the atmosphere. > > Other GHGs such as CH4 and N2O are associated with electricity > generation as well. > > Although they are emitted in smaller quantities, they have an even > > higher Global Warming Potential (GWP). To facilitate accounting for > them, they are collectively simply converted into CO2 equivalents (CO2e). > > > > Thanks > > --- Alex > > > On Sep 15, 2025, at 11:02 AM, Cedric Westphal <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Actually, I looked at the whole draft and not just the substance of > > the text, and please update my affiliation as: > > Cedric Westphal, Department of Computer Science and Engineering, > > University of California, Santa Cruz. > > The email can be updated to [email protected] but the ieee email is fine. > > That's my only request. > > Best, > > > > C. > > > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 11:00 AM Cedric Westphal <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> I approve as well! > >> > >> C. > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 12:53 AM Laurent Ciavaglia (Nokia) > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dear Alice, dear all, > >>> > >>> I have reviewed the changes made over the AUTH48 process/period, and > found them to address very well the identified issues, to improve the text > and formulation overall and to not change the iniital meaning of the > sentences/paragraphs. > >>> Overall this is a very good work on the document for publication > readiness. Thank you Alice, RFC Editor team and co-authors for the > improvements. > >>> > >>> Also, I hereby communicate my approval this RFC for publication. > >>> > >>> Thank you, best regards, Laurent > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Alice Russo <[email protected]> > >>> Sent: Saturday, 6 September, 2025 10:31 PM > >>> Cc: Alexander Clemm <[email protected]>; Alexander Clemm < > [email protected]>; [email protected]; Laurent Ciavaglia (Nokia) < > [email protected]>; Jeff Tantsura <[email protected]>; > Marie-Paule Odini <[email protected]>; IRSG <[email protected]>; Jérôme > François <[email protected]>; auth48archive < > [email protected]>; RFC Editor <[email protected]> > >>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9845 <draft-irtf-nmrg-green-ps-06> for > your review > >>> > >>> [You don't often get email from [email protected]. Learn > why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] > >>> > >>> CAUTION: This is an external email. Please be very careful when > clicking links or opening attachments. See the URL nok.it/ext for > additional information. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Carlos, > >>> > >>> Thank you for your reply. The revised files are here (please refresh): > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.html > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.txt > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.pdf > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.xml > >>> > >>> This diff file shows all changes from the approved I-D: > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-diff.html > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-rfcdiff.html (side by > side) > >>> > >>> This diff file shows the changes made during AUTH48 thus far: > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-auth48diff.html > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-auth48rfcdiff.html (side > by side) > >>> > >>> This diff file shows only the changes since the last posted version: > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-lastrfcdiff.html > >>> > >>> In addition to the changes you requested: > >>> - removed extraneous 'to'. > >>> - lowercased 'fluorinated'. > >>> - replaced angled quotes with straight quotes per RFC style. > >>> > >>> Re: > >>>> After fixing these three nits, please note and write down my Approval > >>>> of the document at https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9845 > >>> > >>> Your approval has been recorded. We await word from your coauthors and > the Document Shepherd before continuing the publication process. > >>> > >>> Alice Russo > >>> RFC Production Center >
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