Claire, we're definitely thinking along similar lines, both with what to
do and what not to do. I hope I can find the time and energy to do some
test runs over the next few days.

I think I'll start with a simple product-name field and then add some
conditional sections or paragraphs for the things that are in one
product (OOo) and not in the other (LO). Nothing complicated. Well... I
don't think it's complicated. ;-)

And thanks for mentioning the copyright info! That's a perfect candidate
for a linked section. There are others, which will occur to me
eventually. Some things (such as the content of headers and footers)
update when the template is changed.

--Jean

On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 11:35 +0100, Claire Wood wrote: 
> I'd be interested in this, as having just started my new job, I'm finding
> that there are practises that haven't been adopted in some areas of the
> documents to limit the time that documents take to edit, that should have
> been because the tools that are used have not been used to their full
> potential.
> 
> Variables are great for stuff like creating templates (using them in
> headers, footers, for product names, copyright info). It would be good to
> get something whereby stuff like product names, copyright info can be
> changed in 1 place and it changes throughout the book, instead of going into
> every chapter and changing the variable content.
> 
> I tend to find conditional text is a nightmare unless everyone is singing
> with the same hymn sheet, and it can get difficult to police, because it
> demands strict policies to be followed. It only takes one person to leave
> and it can throw the rest of the team into chaos.
> 
> Chunking - again, how deep do you go? I'd suggest not getting silly by going
> down to sentence and word. We've got a section at work that is a prime
> candidate for chunking, but it's at chapter level. The same chapter is put
> in every book, so I think it would work well for the introduction chapters
> make up the Getting Started Guides.
> 
> I'm pretty tired today as I'm in Liverpool after driving for 5 hrs, so if I
> think of anything or find anything, I'll comment further.
> 
> Claire
> 
> On 2 October 2010 03:51, Jean Hollis Weber <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Some of you have said you are experienced technical writers. If anyone
> > has experience with techniques for reusing common material, preferably
> > using OOo's features (variables; conditional text, paragraphs, sections;
> > etc.), please help me set up some methods and files and write the
> > instructions for using them.
> >
> > We want to develop methods that can be used by contributors without
> > detailed knowledge of how they work. TJ, Andrew, or other macro gurus
> > should be able to set up the necessary post-processing once we've worked
> > out what we're doing.
> >
> > Reusing material (such as PDF export) between books has been part of the
> > plan for OOo, and on my personal priority list, for some time -- but it
> > is now even more important and urgent for providing files that can most
> > easily be reused for other flavors of OOo such as LibreOffice.
> >
> > Please no disgressions into how much better FrameMaker or some other
> > tool is at doing this. Any tool that costs money is out, and any tool
> > that isn't easily comprehended by the majority of volunteers is out (so
> > no DocBook). OOo/LO is what we've got, and we should be using our own
> > product anyway.
> >
> > Jean
> > --
> > Jean Hollis Weber
> > Co-Lead, OpenOffice.org Documentation Project
> >




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