At 09:33 20/4/01 -0400, Berin Loritsch wrote:
>> >> * finalize *activity* related methods (init/start/resume/etc)
>> >
>> >Ok. Where are we with that?
>>
>> I am not happy and are experimenting with things ... get back to you in a
>> bit ;)
>
>When are you happy with things? ;-)
I am happy with cornerstone, almost happy with logkit and getting happier
with phoenix ;)
>> well I guess I differ in opinion ... enough to veto a beta release ;)
>
>Oh, please. All beta means is that the api is stable--the code can be
>in varying stages of usability, but the API is stable. Avalon NEEDS this
>SOON. If we keep rearranging things all the time we are going to piss
>alot of people off. I want beta because I want stability. A snowflake
>has a better chance in hell than me convincing my management to base
>any of our software on this project because things are moving around
>so much.
right - which is exactly my point .... which you seem to be missing ;(
>If people only want to use the framework then they can. If they want
>to use the utility code, then it is there to make life easier for
>them.
Your right. Maybe we should add in log4j, turbine and all the commons
projects into the jar aswell. I mean thats fine - people only have to use
what they need. Sure the jar may be updated 20 times a day but what does
that matter right?
>Let's not hold beta hostage until we all come around to your opinion.
You can beta it all you want ... however don't expect me to stake my
reputation on it or support it in anyway. If you are willing to do that
.... then thats your perogative.
Cheers,
Pete
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