At 12:01 23/4/01 -0400, Berin Loritsch wrote:
>Peter Donald wrote:
>>
>> At 09:07 23/4/01 -0400, Berin Loritsch wrote:
>> >Let's not take my argument to the extreme. The natural separation of
>> Cornerstone, Pheonix,
>> >and Avalon Framework (and LogKit) is both acceptable and good. My
>> argument is to not take
>> >the extreme approach in the other direction and have 20 jars where 3 or 4
>> are warranted.
>>
>> Lets see - I want 3 jars for cocoon for clearly separate concerns
>> * logging
>> * framework
>> * components
>>
>> So where are the other 17 you are yammering about ? ;)
>
>Exaggeration to make a point ;P.
;)
>The key issue with separating Framework/Components into separate jars is a
>future concern. The Java Services proposal (JSR-111) has a direct
crosscuttting
>concern area with Avalon Framework (and part of Pheonix). This is from their
>public proposal, so I don't think I can say a whole lot more than that.
>
>If we determine that the JSR framework which will be pooled from several
existing
>frameworks and several bright minds should replace our Framework we have
nothing
>that is Avalon anymore.
Which is one damn good arguement for having org.apache.framework rather
than org.apache.avalon ;) Then Avalon is all of it
Framework/Excalibur/Phoenix/etc.
>Am I out of my head on this? Combining the Excalibur and avalon framework
classes
>in one jar is a low cost solution. On the otherhand, placing them in
separate
>jars but in the same CVS is another low cost alternative. I will relent
on that
>point--but not a completely new CVS project.
small steps work for me ;)
Cheers,
Pete
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