The word "avalon" should not be in that tag. It would read
"Avalon
Avalon Component System"
unless you ment
"Avalon
Component System"
in which case, I'll don the the-guy-that-designed-the-logo-hat
and point out that that tag is a bit shorter than the current
one, which would lead to having to redo the logo layout.
Not that I care that much tho' =)*
The root of the problem of course is that Avalon is a common
framework, but Turbine (specific framework) doesn't use it, and
that it is a component framework but that Commons (component
library) doesn't use it. Annoying duplicity. Like Fred says:
"why can't we all just get along?"
- Leo
* in case someone does really care: making the tag slightly
longer than it currently is would be less of a problem. So
"Common Component System" would be easier.
PS: we should have had this discussion when I first made the
$!@#& thing! Would've saved several hours :'|
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Berin Loritsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 6:12 PM
> Aan: 'Avalon Developers List'
> Onderwerp: RE: [Vote] Logo & banding
>
>
> We are centered around the concept of components, and I would not
> like that to get lost.
>
> Using the comments from Jason, perhaps something like this:
>
> "Avalon Component System"
>
> Simple, to the point, and allows for a broad range of sub projects.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:10 AM
> > To: 'Avalon Developers List'
> > Subject: RE: [Vote] Logo & banding
> >
> >
> > Good points, Jason.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:01 AM
> > > To: Avalon Developers List
> > > Subject: RE: [Vote] Logo & banding
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 10:45, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> > > > So I take it you guys didn't like
> > > >
> > > > "Apache Component Architecture"?
> > > >
> > > > I received no comment, so I don't know if you all saw it yet....
> > >
> > > I certainly don't mean to be rude, and I don't want to start
> > > a fight but I think it's somewhat unjustified in using the
> > > Apache name instead of your project name to promote your
> > > project specific solutions. I never call Turbine the "Apache
> > > Webapplication Framework" because that would be unfair to
> > > both Struts and Cocoon.
> > >
> > > Turbine has been used for more the webapps and could be
> > > called an application framework, and the commons will more
> > > than likely evolve into a component framework. I don't think
> > > you can fairly use a name like "Apache Foo Bar" without the
> > > buy in from the rest of Apache.
> > >
> > > If Struts evolved into an application framework, Turbine did
> > > the same and the commons became a component framework and the
> > > former used "Apache Application Framework" and the latter
> > > used "Apache Component Framework" it would get pretty
> > > confusing pretty fast.
> > >
> > > I think it is most fair to all projects here to use your
> > > project name when promoting your project and not the Apache name.
> > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Leo Sutic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:24 AM
> > > > > To: Avalon Developers List
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Vote] Logo & banding
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: Paul Hammant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Peter, Leo, Berin,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 00:34, Leo Simons wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>What about "Apache Application Architecture"
> > > > > > >>or "Common Application Architecture"?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I like
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Me too, despite the recent service 'offences' against the
> > > > > > component
> > > > > > name.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Having said that CAA is already used with the same
> > > meaning in the
> > > > > > world
> > > > > > of IBM minicomputers. We should be careful to use
> > > Avalon Common
> > > > > > Application Architecture (ACAA).
> > > > >
> > > > > "Apache Common Architecture" ? Just trying to fit "Apache" in
> > > > > there without making it too long.
> > > > >
> > > > > /LS
> > > > >
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